[Juliaa Gillard]

Hey all,

I've spent the last few days reading through all 25 pages of the forum, and there's a lot of good info to be had, but I couldn't find any clarification regarding the following query;

As someone who is in the process of signing up to be an uber driver, and will more than likely be entering a private 'lease' with someone , i.e. paying a daily fee to use their already uber approved vehicle, what is the go with the omnibus license?

Is that something which applies to me, the driver? Or to the vehicle I am driving? I've looked through all the DOT fact sheets, but there's a lot of words, and not much being said.

Cheers

 

[Geely Gangster]

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that it's actually the vehicle, so if you are using someone else's car it would be their responsibility to ensure that it's got the right legal licence for you to be able to drive it for Uber, and they should be aware of this and the cost along with the process. Good luck and I hope you have a good time driving for Uber.

 

[Juliaa Gillard]

Cheers for the response GG. That's what I thought, and tried to communicate this to the individual, however they seem pretty certain that all you need is the 3F insurance on the vehicle. Might be best to source a vehicle elsewhere, I can't afford to get in any strife with the DOT guys.

Thanks Again

 

[UberDriverAU]

Any vehicle that carries passengers for reward is required to have a Charter Vehicle licence. If someone isn't prepared to show you a copy of their CV licence then simply move on, find an operator who does. You're the one risking a fine if you're caught driving an unlicensed vehicle.

 

[Juliaa Gillard]

Thanks UberDriver, that's what I suspected, but just wanted confirmation.

 

[Juliaa Gillard]

What date did these regulations take effect? Is there anywhere I can view the obligations and requirements of the omnibus license?

 

[Potsy]

What date did these regulations take effect? Is there anywhere I can view the obligations and requirements of the omnibus license?

Didn't Uber fill you in with all this info?

 

[UberDriverAU]

They took effect a few weeks ago on the 4th of July 2016. All the info you need is here:

http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/taxis/charter-vehicles.asp

 

[Juliaa Gillard]

Didn't Uber fill you in with all this info?

Uber haven't really told me anything. The only info I've gotten from them is tips on how to acquire an F endorsement, so I'm trying to find my way.

 

[Juliaa Gillard]

They took effect a few weeks ago on the 4th of July 2016. All the info you need is here:

That's what I was looking for, thanks!

 

[Geely Gangster]

Uber are pretty lame at telling you everything, they just like to dangle the carrot in front of you to tell you how much money you will make driving for them.
Will you be doing this full time or part time? The only times you will only make any decent $$$ is on a Friday or Saturday nights. How much a week will you be paying to use someone else's car? We can then advise you realistically if you will make any money or not. Potsy and Jeff0 will give the best advise

 

[Juliaa Gillard]

I'm currently unemployed, with no signs of employment in the near future. That's how I ended up coming to Uber. So to answer your question, I guess ' full time' would be the closest by definition. It'll certainly be my only source of income until I can land a decent job.

The individual I was looking to hire a car from is asking for a $30 per day fee, with me to put in the fuel when I'm using it. They would cover maintenance etc

 

[Geely Gangster]

Uber driving is a good fill in job while you look for something better. $30 a day or $150 for a 5 day week but don't sign up for any fixed term contract and work the money making times. Also it will take about a month before you are up and running with Uber once you start the process of signing up.

 

[Juliaa Gillard]

Yeah I'm not to keen on signing onto any of their marketplace providers or anything, 4 years minimum is a LONG commitment to uber. I lodged my app with the DOT today, so it's just a matter of waiting to hear back from them. Police checks, medical etc is already done and dusted

 

[Larrikin]

Well, if you're paying $30.00 per day, is the car fully insured by the owner? You need to sight written paperwork stating in writing that the car is insured for Ridesharing, also, although it may not be necessary, I'd ensure the owner puts your name down as a driver. What the others have told you in relation tot he omnibus licence is correct - it applies to the vehicle and the papers must be carried in the vehicle at all times.
I don't know what the car is, however if you're going to do it full time, you're looking at anywhere form 1,500km - 2,000kms per week, effectively that's a top up every day of about $40,00 for fuel, more on a Friday and Saturday, so you're going to be outlaying anywhere from $70.00 - $90,00 per day in expenses, you need to make sure you've got the money to cover that, as you'll only get paid once a week, your money goes in the bank on Tuesday evenings.
I don't know what your previous working life has been, however, I would venture to suggest that unless you're used to minesite or long distance driving, you'll find 12 - 14 hr days tiring and some days are just not worth it. I think, if you're realistic, you will probably earn somewhere between $1,000.00 and $1,200.00 per week, then you'll be paying your daily costs and and you'll have a GST bill of anywhere from $100 - $120.00 to pay, albeit quarterly. You won't be able to claim much on tax, as you don't own the vehicle.
But look if you're unemployed and a lot of people are sadly, yes, you'll effectively get more to live on driving for Uber than any sort of benefit, remembering of course, that you'll lose any entitlement to benefits, as you're working.
Bets of luck.

 

[Juliaa Gillard]

Well, if you're paying $30.00 per day, is the car fully insured by the owner? You need to sight written paperwork stating in writing that the car is insured for Ridesharing, also, although it may not be necessary, I'd ensure the owner puts your name down as a driver. What the others have told you in relation tot he omnibus licence is correct - it applies to the vehicle and the papers must be carried in the vehicle at all times.
I don't know what the car is, however if you're going to do it full time, you're looking at anywhere form 1,500km - 2,000kms per week, effectively that's a top up every day of about $40,00 for fuel, more on a Friday and Saturday, so you're going to be outlaying anywhere from $70.00 - $90,00 per day in expenses, you need to make sure you've got the money to cover that, as you'll only get paid once a week, your money goes in the bank on Tuesday evenings.
I don't know what your previous working life has been, however, I would venture to suggest that unless you're used to minesite or long distance driving, you'll find 12 - 14 hr days tiring and some days are just not worth it. I think, if you're realistic, you will probably earn somewhere between $1,000.00 and $1,200.00 per week, then you'll be paying your daily costs and and you'll have a GST bill of anywhere from $100 - $120.00 to pay, albeit quarterly. You won't be able to claim much on tax, as you don't own the vehicle.
But look if you're unemployed and a lot of people are sadly, yes, you'll effectively get more to live on driving for Uber than any sort of benefit, remembering of course, that you'll lose any entitlement to benefits, as you're working.
Bets of luck.

What a comprehensive answer! Thanks for taking the time to type that out, I appreciate it. My working background is in immigration detention, security, and sales. So long hours I'm accustomed to, just not being behind the wheel for extended periods of time. I'll be sure to take regular breaks etc, and ensure I'm fit to drive at all times

 

[UberDriverAU]

I think, if you're realistic, you will probably earn somewhere between $1,000.00 and $1,200.00 per week, then you'll be paying your daily costs and and you'll have a GST bill of anywhere from $100 - $120.00 to pay, albeit quarterly. You won't be able to claim much on tax, as you don't own the vehicle.

He will be able to claim the $30/day plus fuel costs as deductions. The exact percentage of each will depend on the ratio of business use to personal use.

 

[Geely Gangster]

Just a thought. Don't forget to register on ATO as a sole trader and get a ABN number and register for BAS payments

 

[Pp23]

What a comprehensive answer! Thanks for taking the time to type that out, I appreciate it. My working background is in immigration detention, security, and sales. So long hours I'm accustomed to, just not being behind the wheel for extended periods of time. I'll be sure to take regular breaks etc, and ensure I'm fit to drive at all times

Apparently domino's pays $19an hour ,with fuel allowance ,and the option to drive there company car. With no start up cost.

Seems like a far superior alternative ,then some lying tax dodging foreign company ,who's top priority is there profit and not your and families well being.

 

[Juliaa Gillard]

Apparently domino's pays $19an hour ,with fuel allowance ,and the option to drive there company car. With no start up cost.

Seems like a far superior alternative ,then some lying tax dodging foreign company ,who's top priority is there profit and not your and families well being.

I've already submitted my F application, so if I've come this far, may as well give it a crack