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Hi everyone. Ive been browsing this forum for months now but finally decided to make an account and contribute.

So a little about myself...I've been driving for Uber since February of this year and I'm roughly 1,600 rides deep at this point. I also do this full time and earn roughly $3,000-3,300 a month after gas and über fees are deducted. Roughly $100 a day. Mind you I have UBER's gas card and instant pay card. I drive a 2014 Ford Focus SE (not a hybrid). I also drive UBERX.

To put it bluntly, Uber is like that step mother that loves you but also beats you in private. But being a people person and someone who enjoys traveling and exploring in general, Uber definitely suites me. I've talked to some pretty amazing people and have listened to countless stories. I feel like I could put the average therapist to shame.

I start my days with an airport run around 4am (typically from Oceanside to SD Airport), netting me an easy $35-$40, depending on how fast I drive. Then I either end up downtown all day or get a ride up north towards pacific beach or del mar.

I find it takes roughly 10 rides to make $100 profit, granted I get that early airport run which I rarely fail to obtain. It takes me roughly 5-6 hours of driving to make my $100.

However just a few days ago I did 18 rides in 9 hours and made $85 for the day. Easily my worst day yet. I had so many minimum fare rides it was almost making me sick to my stomach. And not a single person tipped.

I find myself gravitating towards south county, as I feel like all the north county drivers crowd around Oceanside transit center or Carlsbad village and I like either heading south east towards all the wealthier housing around Fairbanks ranch area or south along the coast by the racetrack in del mar.

Uber in general has been a positive experience for me and I honestly don't feel like it's a grind at all. I take my time and relax between rides. If I hit a slow point in the day I'll pull over, get out of my car and stretch and talk to friends or play a game on my phone.

I have roughly $1700 a month in expenses and financial responsibilities and have yet to stress at all over them.

I feel like Uber definitely needs to raise prices a bit though, perhaps to $2 per mile and 25 cents a minute for UBERX.

Also, I noticed my account goes days at a time before gas charges are deducted sometimes and if I use instant pay it can leave my account in the negative. Uber needs to ensure gas is being deducted daily.

Anyway, hopefully this was a decent post for a newbie here. Cheers.
 

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Good stuff... I agree with you. I think the best best for a positive experience is driving early in the morning. Working from 4am to 10 or 11am is not difficult and I was able to pull in $25 on 2 rides with Uber and $65 on Lyft... I have no clue what the Lyft tips will be, but I also got $5 cash from a Lyft dude. I used up $12 in gas. This morning I realiistically worked 6am to 10am, so I made ~20 an hour and it wasn't bad at all. Tomorrow I will shoot for 4am til 10am.
 

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Positive post. I work 3 a.m. to about 12. Mostly airport drop-offs until 6 and then people going to work. I am guessing, but I think the Uber to Lyft ratio to be 5 to 1 in volume. Wish Lyft was more popular. There is definitely a cult following.
 

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I also do this full time and earn roughly $3,000-3,300 a month after gas and über fees are deducted. Roughly $100 a day.
So do you do this every single day?

I've talked to some pretty amazing people and have listened to countless stories. I feel like I could put the average therapist to shame.
An actual therapist would be making at least $100/hr. You may wish to look into that career because.. well.. what's your long-term goal with this one? To continue to make 20% less than the median income for the rest of your life, or until your job is rendered obsolete by robot-driven cars? Keep in mind that the time spent Ubering is time that cannot be put on your resume. It's a resume killer because Ubering teaches a person nothing that's applicable to any other career (except taxi or limo driver).

Everything you have to do for Uber -- drive a car, unlock doors, put luggage in a trunk, use an app, and talk to strangers -- is something that everyone over the age of 16 should know how to do already. You'll want to tell future employers that you were in a coma rather than tell them you drove for Uber.

I start my days with an airport run around 4am (typically from Oceanside to SD Airport), netting me an easy $35-$40, depending on how fast I drive. Then I either end up downtown all day or get a ride up north towards pacific beach or del mar.

I find it takes roughly 10 rides to make $100 profit, granted I get that early airport run which I rarely fail to obtain. It takes me roughly 5-6 hours of driving to make my $100.
Thank you for posting these numbers. Given that (on average) $37.50 of your daily $100 total is made on one trip, that means that 9 trips generate $62.50 of your total. Assuming that first ride from Oceanside to SD takes ~45 minutes, that means you spend an average of... let's say... 5 more hours generating $62.50. That's $12.50/hour which is about average for daily grinders but which most people here think is a waste of time.

$12.50 an hour without health insurance, retirement (including paying into social security), worker's compensation, or any other benefits AND including wear and tear on the vehicle plus increased risks of tickets, accidents and injury is... I'm going to estimate... roughly equivalent to minimum wage at a real job. And that's assuming you've correctly subtracted Uber's "gas card" fees from your income. If you don't include gas it's down around $9/hour.

Frankly, you'd be better doing that airport run and then turning around and going home. Even if that took you 2 hours total, you'd be making $18.75/hour. You could use that extra 4 hours a day looking for a real job where you'll at least be paying into social security so you'll have some sort of income when you're old.

Uber in general has been a positive experience for me and I honestly don't feel like it's a grind at all.
Then you are the perfect person for this kind of job.

I feel like Uber definitely needs to raise prices a bit though, perhaps to $2 per mile and 25 cents a minute for UBERX.
That would be more than "a bit." X drivers will never see (un-surged) $2/mi ever again.

This is why I say that people will never make a decent wage again at this rideshare stuff. You get folks like the OP, bless his heart, who is happy making piss-poor wages and has no concept of the future or his own lack of planning for it. Because of that, it's incumbent upon everyone doing rideshare to make it his #1 priority in life to get out and get a real career before it's too late.

That's my way of welcoming you :)
 

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Then I either end up downtown all day or get a ride up north towards pacific beach
Hence that is why you're getting killed with minimum fares. Never stick around DT, PB or NP... those are the most fertile grounds for short rides in SD. If you find yoursellf in any of the above mentioned locations, log off and GTH out unless it's surging and surging big.
However just a few days ago I did 18 rides in 9 hours and made $85 for the day.
 

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So do you do this every single day?

An actual therapist would be making at least $100/hr. You may wish to look into that career because.. well.. what's your long-term goal with this one? To continue to make 20% less than the median income for the rest of your life, or until your job is rendered obsolete by robot-driven cars? Keep in mind that the time spent Ubering is time that cannot be put on your resume. It's a resume killer because Ubering teaches a person nothing that's applicable to any other career (except taxi or limo driver).

Everything you have to do for Uber -- drive a car, unlock doors, put luggage in a trunk, use an app, and talk to strangers -- is something that everyone over the age of 16 should know how to do already. You'll want to tell future employers that you were in a coma rather than tell them you drove for Uber.

Thank you for posting these numbers. Given that (on average) $37.50 of your daily $100 total is made on one trip, that means that 9 trips generate $62.50 of your total. Assuming that first ride from Oceanside to SD takes ~45 minutes, that means you spend an average of... let's say... 5 more hours generating $62.50. That's $12.50/hour which is about average for daily grinders but which most people here think is a waste of time.

$12.50 an hour without health insurance, retirement (including paying into social security), worker's compensation, or any other benefits AND including wear and tear on the vehicle plus increased risks of tickets, accidents and injury is... I'm going to estimate... roughly equivalent to minimum wage at a real job. And that's assuming you've correctly subtracted Uber's "gas card" fees from your income. If you don't include gas it's down around $9/hour.

Frankly, you'd be better doing that airport run and then turning around and going home. Even if that took you 2 hours total, you'd be making $18.75/hour. You could use that extra 4 hours a day looking for a real job where you'll at least be paying into social security so you'll have some sort of income when you're old.

Then you are the perfect person for this kind of job.

That would be more than "a bit." X drivers will never see (un-surged) $2/mi ever again.

This is why I say that people will never make a decent wage again at this rideshare stuff. You get folks like the OP, bless his heart, who is happy making piss-poor wages and has no concept of the future or his own lack of planning for it. Because of that, it's incumbent upon everyone doing rideshare to make it his #1 priority in life to get out and get a real career before it's too late.

That's my way of welcoming you :)
Thank you I agree completely! Very nice post. Very intelligent.
 

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I'm thinking about getting a Focus like the one you have. Could you tell me how many miles are on it and if you've had any transmission problems? Also average mpg? Thanks.
 

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You could use that extra 4 hours a day looking for a real job where you'll at least be paying into social security so you'll have some sort of income when you're old.
You realize self employed people are eligible for social security right? It's part of the self employment tax you pay.

Social Security is complete BS anyway. It shouldn't have ever existed and it'll probably be defunct by the time any of us are eligible to claim on it.
 

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Thanks for the post and information. Be careful zennappi this forum is full of pessimists (Flarpy).

If Uber works for you and your lifestyle, then I applaud your efforts.
I see $2 mile every time I drive on average. Just hold out for 2x surge!
Yeah, but there's no need for him to monitor the app for surge, he's clearing $3000 - $3300 each month after expenses and commission. He's treating it like a FT job, which is great if this is his FT job. Also, he's not driving the drunk/bar crowd, I would say this is a good strategy.
After his personal monthly expenses of $1700, that puts him up $1300 -$1600 each month, car replacement will be a piece of cake at these numbers, that's great!
 

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Great but it sounds like he's working seven days a week for that money. With no benefits. I don't understand why that would be a desirable life unless the other option is the streets.
 

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This job is unique and fun. Some make plenty of money. I don't know why so many have issues with what other people do with their time or Uber experience. I ignore just about all advice I get here. I hand out water. I wait for pax if it is a reasonable amount of time. I don't look for any chance to screw my passengers for my own personal gain. I drive full time. I don't use GPS spoofers to cheat the system. I just drive and enjoy my time doing it while I have this opportunity.
 

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6 days a week or 3 for the same money. It's personal preference. The reasons for not driving at 1x are plentiful and until people refuse to drive for little to no profit, that is what you will be paid. If uber goes away tomorrow it's not like any of the Grinders have a back up plan and uber knows it. You've spent your chips and played your hand now you're at the mercy of the house in the TNC casino.

You don't think they are going to try and squeeze you more? If your willing to drone around for 50 hour weeks at fast food wages in your own vehicle they know there's room to tighten their grip. If drivers refused to drive for pennies, they'd raise the rate. It's common sense capitalism and we are the supply so stop giving it away so damn cheap.
 

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Anyway, hopefully this was a decent post for a newbie here. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Have to give my two cents...I started exactly 2 years ago on 7/28/14...you started After the last fare reduction, which for you info was 42% here in San Diego...I have been through 5 fare reductions and I actually was making 2.25/mile, 1.85 pickup fee, and .30/min when I started. Wait until you realize those 3.20 min fare will take you to $12/hr gross and about $10/hour net...and then, about the time you get comfortable, Uber will add another 5000 drivers in San Diego County and reduce fares on you about 25-35% AGAIN!!! Come back then and tell me what a good gig this is!
 
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