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Or at least the first I've noticed. I don't check every delivery with a fine tooth comb, but I usually glance through them once a day.

Anyway, it was originally $9 for about 4 miles. Got reduced to $5 ($3 base plus $2 tip, the original tip must have been $6).

Not sure if it was a 'tip baiter' or some other reason. I'd assume anyone jackass enough to tip bait would reduce it to zero, but who knows.

On the bright side. I made up for it later with a hidden tip.
 

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It happens to everyone eventually and a lot of the time you won't know why.

The good news is that it's rare if you're basically competent. I'm closing in on 4000 deliveries on UE and I've had maybe six or seven reduced tips.... I THINK. I don't even remember when my last one was.
 

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It happens to everyone eventually and a lot of the time you won't know why.

The good news is that it's rare if you're basically competent. I'm closing in on 4000 deliveries on UE and I've had maybe six or seven reduced tips.... I THINK. I don't even remember when my last one was.
I'm about the same as you. Actual tip baiters are rare. Reducing tips under some pretense is more common. The other day I had one that demanded her Starbucks brought to her door on the 19th floor of a building with absolutely no parking, I had to double park to leave it in the lobby. She ranted at me, called me repeatedly, cussed me out, apparently downvoted me, and reduced the tip to $1. Pretty obvious to me that she pre-tipped a large amount ($8) just trying to get it brought to her floor. *****. Of course I called support to get it documented.
 

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Or at least the first I've noticed. I don't check every delivery with a fine tooth comb, but I usually glance through them once a day.

Anyway, it was originally $9 for about 4 miles. Got reduced to $5 ($3 base plus $2 tip, the original tip must have been $6).

Not sure if it was a 'tip baiter' or some other reason. I'd assume anyone jackass enough to tip bait would reduce it to zero, but who knows.

On the bright side. I made up for it later with a hidden tip.
We use Door Dash at my pizza store lately when we are overwhelmed .
They are slow to pick up orders.
At some stores it may take customer 2 hours to get food.
Business is better when I drive.
Delivery times are much lower.

Had a Door Dash Driver come get a weekly order for a Dr.office.a Regular $10.00 tip.

I tell them this one's a good tip.
The manager informs me after they leave, that the drivers DO NOT GET THE TIPS !

DOOR DASH PAYS THEM WITH THE CREDIT CARD TIPS !
THEY NEVER EVEN KNOW THEY WERE TIPPED.

THEY ONLY GET CASH TIPS !
 

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We use Door Dash at my pizza store lately when we are overwhelmed .
They are slow to pick up orders.
At some stores it may take customer 2 hours to get food.
Business is better when I drive.
Delivery times are much lower.

Had a Door Dash Driver come get a weekly order for a Dr.office.a Regular $10.00 tip.

I tell them this one's a good tip.
The manager informs me after they leave, that the drivers DO NOT GET THE TIPS !

DOOR DASH PAYS THEM WITH THE CREDIT CARD TIPS !
THEY NEVER EVEN KNOW THEY WERE TIPPED.

THEY ONLY GET CASH TIPS !
Well, considering 3/4 of my earnings are tips, methinks your manager is wrong. Or is pocketing the tips like Papa Johns does.

That is probably the reason why”they are slow to pick up orders”. No one wants the no-tip ones.
 

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I'm about the same as you. Actual tip baiters are rare. Reducing tips under some pretense is more common. The other day I had one that demanded her Starbucks brought to her door on the 19th floor of a building with absolutely no parking, I had to double park to leave it in the lobby. She ranted at me, called me repeatedly, cussed me out, apparently downvoted me, and reduced the tip to $1. Pretty obvious to me that she pre-tipped a large amount ($8) just trying to get it brought to her floor. *. Of course I called support to get it documented.
First, why do you deliver in an area that is a pain in the ass?

Second, if I had a customer like that, I would have called Uber and told them I felt unsafe by how the customer was treating me. They would have canceled. I do not deal with customers that want to text and treat me like their hired servant. I am a delivery driver. I deliver. You are the customer. Meet me and receive. It is as simple as that.

I can't tell you how many times I nicely and professionally put customers in their place and reminded them that I was their delivery driver but not their hired servant or taskmaster. I just flat out, nicely and professionally, apologize and tell them I was not going to do that. Plain and simple. You would be amazed how many comply. Some don't and their order gets canceled.

If you notice, it is always the customers who have little orders or those grocery delivery orders, that have ridiculous demands. Hence why i never do grocery delivery orders, 7-11, or food orders with one item. I typically just don't.

I did one, just one, 7-11 order and the customer ordered two cases of bottled water. I was so happy because I knew this was going to be fun. I texted the customer and told them I was on my way and asked them how they wanted to receive the bottled water. They told me on their doorstep. I told them only food deliveries that are non-grocery go to the door. Grocery orders and cases of bottled water are curb deliveries. They said that is not Ubers (Postmates) policy. I told them I am an independent contractor and that is my policy. Needless to say, I showed up and they were looking at me through the window. I called them and they answered and I asked them if they were coming out to grab the cases of water from me. They asked me to PLEASE bring it to the door. I said no, I am a food delivery driver, and the request was unreasonable. They told me their would report me. I told them I could cancel the order right now, They finally said, just leave it. I said, no problem. I left their two cases of bottled water and their bag with their stupid candy bars and toilet paper at the curb next to the mailbox, then left. They did not tip me and I did not care. I am not their servant.
 

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First, why do you deliver in an area that is a pain in the ass?

Second, if I had a customer like that, I would have called Uber and told them I felt unsafe by how the customer was treating me. They would have canceled. I do not deal with customers that want to text and treat me like their hired servant. I am a delivery driver. I deliver. You are the customer. Meet me and receive. It is as simple as that.

I can't tell you how many times I nicely and professionally put customers in their place and reminded them that I was their delivery driver but not their hired servant or taskmaster. I just flat out, nicely and professionally, apologize and tell them I was not going to do that. Plain and simple. You would be amazed how many comply. Some don't and their order gets canceled.

If you notice, it is always the customers who have little orders or those grocery delivery orders, that have ridiculous demands. Hence why i never do grocery delivery orders, 7-11, or food orders with one item. I typically just don't.

I did one, just one, 7-11 order and the customer ordered two cases of bottled water. I was so happy because I knew this was going to be fun. I texted the customer and told them I was on my way and asked them how they wanted to receive the bottled water. They told me on their doorstep. I told them only food deliveries that are non-grocery go to the door. Grocery orders and cases of bottled water are curb deliveries. They said that is not Ubers (Postmates) policy. I told them I am an independent contractor and that is my policy. Needless to say, I showed up and they were looking at me through the window. I called them and they answered and I asked them if they were coming out to grab the cases of water from me. They asked me to PLEASE bring it to the door. I said no, I am a food delivery driver, and the request was unreasonable. They told me their would report me. I told them I could cancel the order right now, They finally said, just leave it. I said, no problem. I left their two cases of bottled water and their bag with their stupid candy bars and toilet paper at the curb next to the mailbox, then left. They did not tip me and I did not care. I am not their servant.
I don't think we view these situations differently at all, I have put more than a few unreasonable, demanding customers in their place.

As for delivering in a place that is such a pain in the ass, that is actually not my home delivery area, I'm normally in Charlottesville Virginia where we don't have any 19 story apartment buildings. I am in Northern Virginia a couple days a week and while I'm there (my wife works up there, I drive) I will flip the app on and do deliveries. Plenty of tall apartment buildings in several areas, it's hard to avoid them because the initial ping doesn't show a precise address.
 

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Or at least the first I've noticed. I don't check every delivery with a fine tooth comb, but I usually glance through them once a day.

Anyway, it was originally $9 for about 4 miles. Got reduced to $5 ($3 base plus $2 tip, the original tip must have been $6).

Not sure if it was a 'tip baiter' or some other reason. I'd assume anyone jackass enough to tip bait would reduce it to zero, but who knows.

On the bright side. I made up for it later with a hidden tip.
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I had a real, live honest-to-goodness tip bait experience last night! It was an apartment complex with a gate, the guy walked down instead of buzzing me through, the code he gave me didn't work. Pleasant enough encounter, but it just seemed odd, and he was odd. $8 tip never happened! I imagine that in his stoned head he was thinking; "Since I had to go meet him he gets no tip." Whatever.
 

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We use Door Dash at my pizza store lately when we are overwhelmed .
They are slow to pick up orders.
At some stores it may take customer 2 hours to get food.
Business is better when I drive.
Delivery times are much lower.

Had a Door Dash Driver come get a weekly order for a Dr.office.a Regular $10.00 tip.

I tell them this one's a good tip.
The manager informs me after they leave, that the drivers DO NOT GET THE TIPS !

DOOR DASH PAYS THEM WITH THE CREDIT CARD TIPS !
THEY NEVER EVEN KNOW THEY WERE TIPPED.

THEY ONLY GET CASH TIPS !
That’s illegal.
 

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He means his pizza place keeps the tips for themselves. They’d keep the cash tips, too, if it were possible.

No wonder the orders are slow at pick-up - the tips are gone.

Lets not pretend we don’t know this is happening at some third-party places. Papa John merely being the most high-profile place caught - they’re national, so the news spread fast.

But a bunch of local places do this. When you consistently see super low offers from a specific place - 8 times out of 10 that’s what’s going on.

I think our local Playa Bowls does this. Never once saw even a half-decent ping from them. A catering place does this - same thing, their pings are always crap. Those are just off the top of my head and I specifically don’t mention a few Lakewood stores ‘cause @SinTaxERROR will pummel me with foods I don’t enjoy. 😂

Stores steal tips. They just do. How they justify it is beyond the point. Know this and add to sh!tlist.

When a store consistently has lousy pings, they’re doing it. Sure, there are a lot of no- and low-tippers around. But any store will have a good tipper at least on occasion. If not - they’re stealing.
 

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He means his pizza place keeps the tips for themselves. They’d keep the cash tips, too, if it were possible.

No wonder the orders are slow at pick-up - the tips are gone.

Lets not pretend we don’t know this is happening at some third-party places. Papa John merely being the most high-profile place caught - they’re national, so the news spread fast.

But a bunch of local places do this. When you consistently see super low offers from a specific place - 8 times out of 10 that’s what’s going on.

I think our local Playa Bowls does this. Never once saw even a half-decent ping from them. A catering place does this - same thing, their pings are always crap. Those are just off the top of my head and I specifically don’t mention a few Lakewood stores ‘cause @SinTaxERROR will pummel me with foods I don’t enjoy. 😂

Stores steal tips. They just do. How they justify it is beyond the point. Know this and add to sh!tlist.

When a store consistently has lousy pings, they’re doing it. Sure, there are a lot of no- and low-tippers around. But any store will have a good tipper at least on occasion. If not - they’re stealing.
They can only steal tips, on DoorDash, if they are signed up for DoorDash Drive, which allows them to summon drivers when needed for orders. For Uber Eats, this only can happen if the merchant is still using Postmates and the order is placed through the merchants websites. Other than that, the tip is the tip
 
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