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Most fuber/thryft drivers live in poverty & only digging deeper in poverty from this rideshare scam
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This is absolutely true, this is the reason why no one should accept base rate pings ....and only do surge above 1.5x
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It is sad seeing people do rideshare as a full time job. Long term it is a loosing proposition I can see some value in it as a supplemental income or even as a gap job I just don't think it pays enough to do full time.
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Uber pretty much ruined things for everyone.
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Low pay to ride entilted ingrates that act like you're a servant is ALL bad.
Yup...its ONLY thing uber does consistently.
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The PC media won't touch it, but the root of ALL the exploitation of drivers is continued high rates of LEGAL Third World immigration.
Fuber and gryft could NEVER get away with treating their drivers poorly without high immigration rates.
Third World immigrants make up the vast majority of drivers and new signups. Without the new signups, fuber would have to choose between treating drivers with respect or going out of business.
Americans bailed out of rideshare at least 3 years ago due to the paycuts.
Despite EVERY rotten thing both companies continue to do to the drivers, immigrants continue to sign up in large numbers.
Our govt created this mess, and only they can bring about change thru immigration reform and/or lawsuits and/or regulations.
These scumbag companies will NEVER pay decent rates without govt intervention.
Fuber and gryft could NEVER get away with treating their drivers poorly without high immigration rates.
Third World immigrants make up the vast majority of drivers and new signups. Without the new signups, fuber would have to choose between treating drivers with respect or going out of business.
Americans bailed out of rideshare at least 3 years ago due to the paycuts.
Despite EVERY rotten thing both companies continue to do to the drivers, immigrants continue to sign up in large numbers.
Our govt created this mess, and only they can bring about change thru immigration reform and/or lawsuits and/or regulations.
These scumbag companies will NEVER pay decent rates without govt intervention.
They are third world countries because the west wants them to be third world so that their multinational companies will have cheap labor, raw materials and consumer markets.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2016/mar/05/does-west-care-development
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Third world legal immigration is not the problem at all. What is the problem is that we have people who have had the luxury of a first world education and upbringing and they can not compete with these third world legal immigrants.
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"The following year, the US did the very same thing in Guatemala. Jacobo Arbenz - the country's second democratically-elected president - was redistributing unused portions of large private estates to landless Mayan peasants, with full compensation for the owners. But the American-based United Fruit Company took issue with this policy, and pushed Eisenhower to topple Arbenz. After the coup, Guatemala was ruled by US-backed dictatorships for 42 years, which presided over the massacre of more than 200,000 Mayans and one of the highest poverty rates in Latin America."
The best president Guatemala ever had that never could, guy had to live in exile afterwards bouncing from 1 country to another fearing for his life, the US terrorized Guatemala n those days... VIVA POR SIEMPRE SEÑOR JACOBO ARBENZ
In October 2011, the Guatemalan government issued an official apology for Árbenz's overthrow. Lllloooollll funny pos sellouts
The last guatemalan ex President is in jail (its "rumored" for non cooperative with U.S.A interests) cracked down for his corruption crimes by the c.i.c.i.g, c.i.c.i.g was pushed by the U.S.A & created by the U.N.(nonetheless a good thing even though it won't touch ppl that r under the "foreign intelligence agency" payroll)
The new president is a joke to say the least, his brother & son was convicted of corruption, he is backed up & was chosen by the bad military mafia thats "rumored" to b under the "foreign intelligence agency" pay roll
The ex president General Efrain Rios Montt seen in the trial picture, is "rumored" to have stopped cooperating at some point so he lost his "immunity"
It's an awkward feeling I get because I live here but still glad to b here... ohh well, another day/another dollar lol
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They don't intend to drift down in class.
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completely reasonable..... One would need to adapt to changing if what they are used to doing no longer affords them the lifestyle that they wish to have. This is nothing jobs that were once good loose value and ones that were never thought of increase in value. Those who are successful are able to adapt to the changes quickly those who can not are forced to live with the changes.
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Legal Third World immigration isn't a problem for fuber and gryft, it's a dream come true for them.
For the drivers, immigration is a disaster.
Education level is irrelevant in this discussion. A PHD with five degrees who chooses to do rideshare will have to suffer the same terrible pay as a high school dropout.
It's not a matter of "competing" with immigrants, it's about supply and demand.
It's basic economics 101. If an occupation becomes flooded with workers, wages go down and companies get the upper hand.
And when you give unethical companies such as fuber and gryft the upper hand, they'll beat you over the head with it.
The US govt, either through incompetence or deliberate action continues to allow high rates of Third World immigration, which provides fuber and gryft the club they use to beat their drivers over their collective heads.
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I disagree it has everything to do with education and a persons ability to quickly adapt. If a given job is no longer viable than it is on you to find something else to do that is viable. The problem with Uber and Lyft is not the immigrants it is that it is low skill and low barrier to entry literally anyone and everyone can do the job if they want to.
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Word! All by design I'm sure.Oh boy...here we go again
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Maybe you've seen this discussion before, but this forum gets new visitors all the time.
As I already pointed out, education level is irrelevant to the topic of rideshare pay rates.
Something is seriously wrong with a govt whose immigration policy is causing American workers to quit their jobs due to falling wages and working conditions.
Putting the welfare of Americans second is not the way our govt is supposed to operate.
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The immigrants help the majority of US citizens in lower prices. If that hurts a small number who could not adapt to something else than that is a small price to pay in my mind.
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Fear not fellow Uber "workers". When we are locked into this line of work, our technocrats will subsidize 50% of our lives to transport elitists. The same people working to perpetuate our mediocre standard of living. Think of yourselves as serfs, sleeping outside the castle walls. Globalize, receive your 'mark', shut up and be happy. Everything will be taken care of for you.
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American workers should not be forced to "adapt" to artificially low wages and working conditions due to an influx of imported labor.
And your "lower prices" argument certainly doesn't apply to fuber.
Fuber's prices have skyrocketed at the same time driver pay rates have crashed through the floor.
And your "lower prices" argument certainly doesn't apply to fuber.
Fuber's prices have skyrocketed at the same time driver pay rates have crashed through the floor.
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