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As far as I remember idiot Logan asked for too much money and TK laughed him out of the building.
LYFT. What a POS of a company
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Agreed, your time is worth NOTHING! 🤣
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Been driving Lyft now for 2 weeks. They definately pay more than Uber. I did an airport run from WEHO last night. Those Uber calls pay about $15 to $16 at non peak times. With Lyft I got nearly $20 for a 14 mile ride that took about 35 minutes. The passenger shuffling is annoying and you can't decline those calls but I am going to stick with Lyft for now.
This is a great example what biased media does. They only include a small part of the quote and leave the rest out, so the audience misses the context of the original quote, and thinks you are saying something that you are not.
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While your statement about partial quotes is true (and gives me pause as a mod), yes, U/L should pay us for some things they can't control. Time is at the top of that list.
Remember, before UFP, they paid per mile and per minute. A couple years ago, they lowered per mile pay and raised per minute pay, stating that "We heard you and made this change to compensate you better for time waiting in traffic." We'll ignore the fact that this was really a 25% pay cut. The point is that they have used traffic conditions as a reason/excuse for altering pay in the past.
The same logic applies to extra mileage for accidents, traffic, detours and everything else. It's not the driver's fault and it's not U/L's fault either. It's not even the pax' fault. BUT, the pax should pay for it. It's their ride. The driver should definitely not bear the burden.
So, yes, they should pay for conditions beyond their control. AND, they should charge the pax for it too. Even cabs charge for time sitting still in traffic and they charge for every 1/5 mile, except for fares mandated by gov't rules.
They still charge the riders for time
They also charge long distance pickup fee.
Pretty sure that's not going to the driver.
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Our time is worth money.... Partial quotes or not.
The partial quote is only to highlight that our time is worth money
Jeepers creepers guys.....,...
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Speaking of creepers, The rider is now only playing 13 cents a minute?
No wonder I'm not getting a bump up in earnings for sitting in traffic and extra 30 minutes. Golly Josh willikers.
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We are obviously not being paid for time anymore, even though that was supposed to be guaranteed by Prop 22. Isn't this going to come back to haunt them in a future lawsuit?
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Hmmm, makes me wonder if they've found a new way to pay less than p22 requires.
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They are "disruptors". They don't care about following the law they wrote They don't follow the law they didn't write They don't follow the rules they don't follow common sense, they don't follow anything.. not even the yellow brick road.
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It's always been their MO to do it anyway and see you in court later. Which shows their disrespect for everything. They're sociopaths.
This is all very reasonable, and I agree that it would be nice if Lyft and Uber made adjustments to upfront fares, which would benefit the driver, just like it would be nice if all passengers were required to give tips. That being said, what you are suggesting here draws a very thin line between being an independent contractor and being an employee.
Above and beyond that, I don't think the driver in this case was born yesterday. I think that the driver in question is probably very familiar with local traffic in the area, which can get quite slow, and come to a crawl at times.
Let's face it, when it comes to estimating drive times, it's a lot easier to get the estimate right when you are dealing with traffic in Nebraska, vs traffic in Los Angeles.
One day, I drove from San Diego to Los Angeles on a SATURDAY afternoon to meet this girl I met online. On the way there, I ran into THREE traffic jams! Took me way longer than I thought it would!
The driver knew how much they were going to get paid upfront. The driver knew how many miles they were going to go, and based on the time of day and driving experience, probably knew roughly how accurate the time estimate might be, and that sometimes, the time estimate is off, especially in Los Angeles traffic, where it's not always possible to quote accurate drive times, especially during certain times of the day.
Life isn't always fair. Sometimes, when this type of stuff happens, you kind of have to just roll with the punches, and be happy with the good that comes out of a specific situation. Or you can complain about it, look only at the negative side of the issue, and be mad and complain that you lost half an hour of your life that you can't get back. Meanwhile, the guy working at the taco truck is thankful for his $10 an hour...making what you made in an hour in a full day of work.
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You are free to think that your time is worth nothing. I value my time highly and refuse to donate it freely to shitbag companies like Uber and Lyft.
You didn't "donate" your time. You earned close to $80 an hour. You are not "donating" your time to Uber and Lyft. They are paying you. Just curious, before expenses, how much did you earn from "donating" your time to Uber and Lyft in 2022?
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"Life isn't always fair" has no validity in the field of employment law. I'm quite sure not paying drivers for the extra time incurred by delays, traffic, etc, is illegal under Prop 22 and will be challenged in future lawsuits.
Maybe so. In the future that could happen. But if Lyft and Uber are such horrible companies, why don't you just quit and find a better paying profession, that gives you more freedom? I mean, you must be sticking around for some reason. Could it be the MONEY you are making now?
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Rideshare drivers will never again be paid adjustments for time so long as certain people have the attitude that their time is worthless.
Yes I know that’s the past dude. A year ago I was getting the same and making $500 gross per day on Lyft. Those days are gone
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