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Fair enough, but you knew that you are no longer on the old rate card. Lyft also would have given you the mileage up front, so you knew how many miles you were going. And unless you were brand new to the area and had never driven there, you would know that there was a possibility of traffic jams, accidents, and other factors that cause delays, so no, Lyft shouldn't have to pay you more for factors they can't control.
About 7 people in this thread so far...
This is a great example what biased media does. They only include a small part of the quote and leave the rest out, so the audience misses the context of the original quote, and thinks you are saying something that you are not.
This is all very reasonable, and I agree that it would be nice if Lyft and Uber made adjustments to upfront fares, which would benefit the driver, just like it would be nice if all passengers were required to give tips. That being said, what you are suggesting here draws a very thin line between being an independent contractor and being an employee.
Above and beyond that, I don't think the driver in this case was born yesterday. I think that the driver in question is probably very familiar with local traffic in the area, which can get quite slow, and come to a crawl at times.
Let's face it, when it comes to estimating drive times, it's a lot easier to get the estimate right when you are dealing with traffic in Nebraska, vs traffic in Los Angeles.
One day, I drove from San Diego to Los Angeles on a SATURDAY afternoon to meet this girl I met online. On the way there, I ran into THREE traffic jams! Took me way longer than I thought it would!
The driver knew how much they were going to get paid upfront. The driver knew how many miles they were going to go, and based on the time of day and driving experience, probably knew roughly how accurate the time estimate might be, and that sometimes, the time estimate is off, especially in Los Angeles traffic, where it's not always possible to quote accurate drive times, especially during certain times of the day.
Life isn't always fair. Sometimes, when this type of stuff happens, you kind of have to just roll with the punches, and be happy with the good that comes out of a specific situation. Or you can complain about it, look only at the negative side of the issue, and be mad and complain that you lost half an hour of your life that you can't get back. Meanwhile, the guy working at the taco truck is thankful for his $10 an hour...making what you made in an hour in a full day of work.
You didn't "donate" your time. You earned close to $80 an hour. You are not "donating" your time to Uber and Lyft. They are paying you. Just curious, before expenses, how much did you earn from "donating" your time to Uber and Lyft in 2022?
Maybe so. In the future that could happen. But if Lyft and Uber are such horrible companies, why don't you just quit and find a better paying profession, that gives you more freedom? I mean, you must be sticking around for some reason. Could it be the MONEY you are making now?
Technically speaking, historically, Uber and Lyft drivers make a majority of their money on mileage and tips, not time. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if my understanding is correct, Uber Comfort drivers in Los Angeles earn roughly 15 cents per minute, which I imagine is pretty close to what the Lyft rates are for a similar vehicle.
So in this case...in which the driver got paid almost $80 an hour for "donating" his time, if Lyft did make an adjustment to compensate for time above what was given in the estimate (29 minutes), the driver would get paid an additional $4.35 for the ride.
Perhaps someone should open up a GoFundMe account to compensate him for his time...
Ok. I stand corrected. The new adjusted total would be $8.70. As of now, there are 23 participants in this discussion, so if we all chip in and 38 cents each, the original poster would be fairly compensated for the ride, and come out slightly ahead.
How about just admit the fact that you basically got bent out of shape for less than $5 if the above example I quoted was correct, or less than $10 if the corrected version of the math is true? If you average $80 an hour, and $10 is the amount you are owed, you would be able to make up the difference by taking just one 8 minute ride at the end of your shift.
That's not what happened here. Let's look at what actually happened here, rather than create an imaginary scenario which did not happen. Keep in mind that this does not happen with every single ride, but is the exception and not the rule.
THEN STOP DRIVING FOR LYFT AND UBER AND GET A BETTER JOB!
No. My post was about pointing out how drivers get bent out of shape over something very minor like $5, complain about it in a public forum, refuse to take responsibility for their own actions, badmouth the companies that give them the best paying income they have had in their lifetime, and won't bat an eye at spending $30 a day on Carmel Macchiato Lates.
Sure, there can always be improvements, and no one is questioning that, but we don't live in a perfect world where everything is going to be perfect and you will get your way all of the time. Remember, there are certain things you agree to in order to drive for Uber and Lyft, and these things are legally binding. If you hate it so much, and are going to complain about every little thing, then it's time for a different line of work. Also remember that these companies basically operate at a loss. It's not all about you. Stop acting like a boy and be a man. The world does not revolve around you.
No. Just stop complaining about how the company did you a huge injustice over a single $5 incident. In reading the original post, you'd think the guy got short changed $50. Also, try to understand the reason why it happened (traffic jams, accidents, etc), and don't be such a big cry baby about it.
Giving you a time estimate isn't stealing your money. It probably comes from the mapping service the app uses and not the company itself. Estimates aren't always accurate. That's why they are called estimates, which are approximations. But if it's that big of a deal to you, just start a class action lawsuit so you can get your $10 refunded.
No, my argument is not garbage. Whining and complaining about every little thing is not a good thing for adults to do. With the way you are responding to some of these posts, its almost like you are admitting to being a big baby about it. You could just take another ride at the end of the day, or cut back on a Cafe Latee, or do a number of other things to get your "lost" money back, and probably even come out ahead, but instead, you just want mommy to fix things for you, so that everything will be alright. Hey, maybe there will be a lawsuit one day and you will get a $30 check for everything wrong you think the company did to you to "steal" your money, not realizing you could have spent all of that wasted time and energy complaining, and instead figuring out how to make $3,000, rather than a $30 settlement.
Yeah, all that trouble for a measly $10 per driver. As for the "big picture", I've tried to paint that picture 10 different ways for you, but you can't get past the $10 you think the company owes to you, that you could earn from just one extra 8 minute ride at the end of the night. Do that 20 times a month, and you would end up with an extra $200 bucks per month. Do that for a year, and you would end up with an extra $2,400 per year. Or you can sit here and sulk about the great "injustice" Lyft has done.
It's all about your attitude and your perspective. To one person, the glass is half empty. To another, the glass is half full. To someone who thinks they are a victim, they won't even drink the water in the glass because they think its tainted, not realizing the water comes from the same well they drink out of every day. So there is another picture I've just painted for you...
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