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Lighted signs are a tool of the trade for those who provide on-demand transportation, but local Lyft drivers report they were never warned they are illegal in Pennsylvania.

Lyft, an international company that contracts local drivers to transport riders communicated to them through a phone app, offers a lighted dashboard sign called the Lyft Amp for drivers who transport more than 250 customers. The Amp, according to Lyft, is used to make their drivers' cars more recognizable.

The problem is that Pennsylvania law dictates that lighted signs cannot be placed on a car's dashboard. "I didn't know it was illegal. It was sent to me by Lyft so I used it," said John Konoski, an Uber and Lyft driver who was given a warning from state police for using his Amp. "I was under the assumption that if we get decals or signs, the company already has compliance."

Pennsylvania's vehicle code states a vehicle can only have an illuminated sign if it is placed on the top or back of the vehicle, and if that vehicle falls under an approved list.

While Lyft vehicles could be seen as taxis, which are allowed to have lighted signs, state law says the dashboard sign is a hindrance.

"The lights are allowed on top of a vehicle and the rear of the vehicle. They just can't be on the front portion because it would obstruct their view and make it more difficult to see," said Trooper Angela Beiber, community services officer with Troop F in Montoursville.

Lyft, as well as its drivers, see the Amp as an important part of the business because it gives passengers peace of mind knowing they are getting in the right car. When a customer is waiting for a Lyft to pick them up, a color displayed on their phone corresponds with the color of the driver's Amp.

"Amp has a dynamic color-coded effect, allowing for easier pickups and vehicle identification, highlighting drivers' cars so passengers know exactly which ride is theirs," Campbell Matthews, a Lyft spokesman, said.

The Amps are designed to specifically be placed on the dashboard of a driver's vehicle. A scrolling marquee on the back of the device welcomes the rider when they get in the car.

Lyft is looking at methods to get the signs on the dashboard of its drivers' cars and is "actively engaging in conversations with state officials," Matthews said.

But, according to one local state representative, working to change the regulations through the state could take years.

"It would be a lot easier if it was handled administratively," said Jeff Wheeland, R-Loyalsock Township. "That is something that can be done even if it's written in law."
 

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I sold mine when they first came out. But... honestly... isn't it a driver's responsibility to have a basic comprehension of what's legal on the road? A LIGHT on a vehicle's windshield would be classified as a driver distraction for the driver of said vehicle, pedestrians, and drivers of other vehicles. Making them illegal. Though, seriously, who even wears trade dress anyway?
 

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I sold mine when they first came out. But... honestly... isn't it a driver's responsibility to have a basic comprehension of what's legal on the road? A LIGHT on a vehicle's windshield would be classified as a driver distraction for the driver of said vehicle, pedestrians, and drivers of other vehicles. Making them illegal. Though, seriously, who even wears trade dress anyway?
It's required in Pennsylvania by the PUC to display your trade dress or we get fined.
 

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I've NEVER displayed trade dress. The cops know who I am, my car, and what I'm doing. I get thanks, not tickets not tickets or fines. Because I drive my car and pick people up like a normal, semi-intelligent human being who follows the laws of the road. And people don't try to jump in my car every time I park because 'you just HAVE to be my uber car!'. But, please, do enjoy your trade dress. Mine, however, will remain in my glove compartment only to come out if asked for at the airport, since they have to be difficult sometimes.
 

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I've NEVER displayed trade dress. The cops know who I am, my car, and what I'm doing. I get thanks, not tickets not tickets or fines. Because I drive my car and pick people up like a normal, semi-intelligent human being who follows the laws of the road. And people don't try to jump in my car every time I park because 'you just HAVE to be my uber car!'. But, please, do enjoy your trade dress. Mine, however, will remain in my glove compartment only to come out if asked for at the airport, since they have to be difficult sometimes.
Seeing as how you are listed on here as Philly being one of your locations I'm shocked you haven't had any issues with the PPA. You go ahead and roll without your trade dress but keep in mind if we aren't displaying the new trade dress while operating June 1st they'll start handing out citations. I only display it while my app is on. They don't pay me enough to advertise for them and I don't make enough to pay PA unnecessary money for something as silly as a sticker.
 

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Said it once, will say it again... I love my Lyft light. The colors are great and people notice it.

It is also comforting to know that I am not the only idiot out on the ride picking up at all times of the night.
 
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