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Lyft/Uber certainly wasn't complaining that you needed an expensive medallion to operate a cab in Boston. They certainly were not complaining when a cab has to pay a pick up fee and Uber/Lyft did not. They certainly weren't complaining about cab drivers needing fingerprints.

^ You're missing the larger point; this will effect drivers on both platforms. Every rider I've talked to hates the central parking proposal. They're not gonna be happy about paying more for something they don't like.
Exactly what I have been saying from the pax point of view.

If anyone does any sort of travel on a regular basis they know how much of pain this can be.
 

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Enough with the yammering. Taxis and Limos have had well established pick up zones at the airport for decades.

By the nature of taxi cabs queueing up at a curb and having passengers jump in is ideal and the method by which they operate.

How would any of you feel about rideshares lining up and taking whatever person jumped in first?

Why whine about the fees? Are you paying them? Not fair not to charge taxi/limos the same....well BOO-F’in-HOO. I didn’t hear any complaints about rideshare rates being lower than cab rates which is a large part of the attraction of rideshares.
 

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How would any of you feel about rideshares lining up and taking whatever person jumped in first?
That's happening at other airports and is probably coming to Logan at one point.

Massport is being short sighted with this. Whether you, or they, like it or not rideshare is growing and fast becoming the preferred choice by the traveling public. The days of taxis taking the best real estate in the city and and the airport are numbered.

Instead of half ass solutions that anyone with a brain knows isn't going to work well they should swallow their pride, turn down the kick backs from the taxi interest groups and find a solution that works for everyone involved.

Penalizing pax by requiring them to pay more and be treated like second class citizens in the process is government at it's best. Shamefull.
 

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That's happening at other airports and is probably coming to Logan at one point.

Massport is being short sighted with this. Whether you, or they, like it or not rideshare is growing and fast becoming the preferred choice by the traveling public. The days of taxis taking the best real estate in the city and and the airport are numbered.

Instead of half ass solutions that anyone with a brain knows isn't going to work well they should swallow their pride, turn down the kick backs from the taxi interest groups and find a solution that works for everyone involved.

Penalizing pax by requiring them to pay more and be treated like second class citizens in the process is government at it's best. Shamefull.
Hey. That $5 monthly donation I give to the "Greater Good Taxi Foundation" for bribes and influence has to be good for something.
 

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That's happening at other airports and is probably coming to Logan at one point.

Massport is being short sighted with this. Whether you, or they, like it or not rideshare is growing and fast becoming the preferred choice by the traveling public. The days of taxis taking the best real estate in the city and and the airport are numbered.

Instead of half ass solutions that anyone with a brain knows isn't going to work well they should swallow their pride, turn down the kick backs from the taxi interest groups and find a solution that works for everyone involved.

Penalizing pax by requiring them to pay more and be treated like second class citizens in the process is government at it's best. Shamefull.
lol. We are talking about $1.75 increase. What's the big deal?
 

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lol. We are talking about $1.75 increase. What's the big deal?
A 50% increase in fees stacked on top of making people schlep to/from central parking?

It's also stupid to charge rideshare pax more and have people walk while taxis sit at the curb and their customers would pay would pay less.

Logic would dictate the premium fee paid to Massport would be for the convenience of just grabbing a car at the curb.
 

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A 50% increase in fees stacked on top of making people schlep to/from central parking?

It's also stupid to charge rideshare pax more and have people walk while taxis sit at the curb and their customers would pay would pay less.

Logic would dictate the premium fee paid to Massport would be for the convenience of just grabbing a car at the curb.
Well time to pay up, maybe the fee was set too low from the beginning.
 

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^ You're missing the larger point; this will effect drivers on both platforms. Every rider I've talked to hates the central parking proposal. They're not gonna be happy about paying more for something they don't like.
I am not so sure they will even realize there is an increase in fee. Most don't even realize they are paying a fee now. Will this effect the amount of riders? I doubt it. People will still need rides from the airport. They still take uber and Lyft when there is a surge. Surge certainly doesn't stop them. Will this drive them cabs and livery services which will still be charging more? I doubt it. My guess this is all a set up for the introduction of line and pool at the airport.
 

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Most of my Logan riders are business people - business people wont want to ride pool, their time is more important than saving money. So dont expect pool to grow.

Walking to/from central parking is a piece of the change. Riders will have to wait in central parking for an elevator to take them from floor 1 to 4. The elevators are already too slow...I used to walk the stairs rather than wait. At the other end in the terminals the riders will wait again for elevators to take them up 3/4 floors. These elevators are again very slow - I also would walk these stairs rather than wait. So add it up - elevator wait in central parking, walk to terminal, elevator wait at terminal...add it all up and you are adding 20 minutes to every Uber ride.

And do you think MassPort has any idea how they are going to magically match droppoff drivers with arriving riders, so drivers dont leave Logan empty? How will Logan eliminate the 150-200 drivers typically waiting in the TNC lot?

Mass Port has no idea what they are doing. This proposal is a Taxi owners hit job on Logan ridesharing.
 

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I am not so sure they will even realize there is an increase in fee. Most don't even realize they are paying a fee now. Will this effect the amount of riders? I doubt it. People will still need rides from the airport. They still take uber and Lyft when there is a surge. Surge certainly doesn't stop them. Will this drive them cabs and livery services which will still be charging more? I doubt it. My guess this is all a set up for the introduction of line and pool at the airport.
Agreed that most don't know they pay a fee now but that is starting to change since the articles about all the changes are hitting the news more. They do notice the increased pricing though. More of them are starting to shop the apps for lower pricing and there have been some pretty big swings. Add in the inconveinence of central parking and increase pricing and some absolutely will go back to livery services.

I'd also say that this email from Lyft has more to do with them losing the ability to gouge passengers as much with the fees paid to Massport increasing. More to Massport limits what they can take from the pax; they don't really care about the drivers and are using some scare tactics here. There is some merit to it affecting our pay at some point though.

Mass Port has no idea what they are doing. This proposal is a Taxi owners hit job on Logan ridesharing.
Truth.
 

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Agreed that most don't know they pay a fee now but that is starting to change since the articles about all the changes are hitting the news more. They do notice the increased pricing though. More of them are starting to shop the apps for lower pricing and there have been some pretty big swings. Add in the inconveinence of central parking and increase pricing and some absolutely will go back to livery services.

I'd also say that this email from Lyft has more to do with them losing the ability to gouge passengers as much with the fees paid to Massport increasing. More to Massport limits what they can take from the pax; they don't really care about the drivers and are using some scare tactics here. There is some merit to it affecting our pay at some point though.


Truth.
Yeah, typical little uber bro drama queen that is lyft. We only care about our pinky war chest.
 

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So the new proposal is if I drop off at the airport I can't just leave I have to pick up someone else?
They can't make you take any ride. The only way they can get around this is if we have to sign another addendum stating that if we opt in for airport rides, if we drop off we have to wait to pick up. But once again, even if you opted in to the airport, who are they to tell you when you want to stop working. They can't. You could drop off and then just turn off app and leave. Granted they could turn your app off for a set period of time if you leave without a fare and have opted in, but I don't see any of those scenarios happening.
 
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