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So I get to the pickup and wait for the passengers to come down. It's an older woman with a younger woman who is obviously mentally handicapped. They get in and I close the doors and as I'm about to start the engine and drive the older passenger says can you lock the child locks please and adds that the other passenger is autistic. I was about ready to decline the ride but I did check and make sure that the doors were not able to be open from the inside so I began the ride. During the ride the autistic passenger was tugging at the door as well as being on the back of my seat. When the ride was over I down rated them and reported the situation to Uber. I made it clear that I have no trouble driving disabled passengers, I have driven many and in fact earlier that day I had driven two disabled passengers. I stated I just wanted to let them know that I think having a rider who may open the door and rude is a risk that I don't think Uber would want to take.
 

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You down rated them b/c the passenger that is lucky enough to be on the Autism Spectrum, was doing what they probably normally do, and that deserved downrating? And you called Uber I'm guessing in case they downrated you maybe?
I'm so glad you can drive your acceptable 'disabled passengers' though. The passenger on the Spectrum was rude also? Poor driver! I'll bet Uber was SO GLAD you alerted them!- NOT!

I'm sorry but among other things, my 2 sons are both on the Autism Spectrum. They're NOT Autistic- they have Autism.
You probably don't see the the difference, but IMHO- it is rather rude to refer to someone as 'Autisitc'.
Rant over,

I hope the rest of your neurotypical day went well, with neurotypical passengers.
 

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Did you at least learn to seat any possible safety threat on the passenger side?

I actually had a very similar ride last year. Mom and son though. She warned me that he was likely to "act up" and didn't like being cramped. I had her sit behind me and put the front passenger seat in full "nobody is sitting here mode". He hit the back of the seat a couple of times and undid his seatbelt 2 or 3 times (Mom fixed), but that was it. I can't recall if she tipped, but I wasn't downrated and it was a fairly long ride. Plan for the worst, hope for the best, and empathize.
 

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Standing up on my feet, and getting out of my car and then sliding a button on the rear door seems like an unreasonable l, time consuming and ridiculous amount of work.

And don't forget I'm gonna have to sit back down in my car again
 

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You down rated them b/c the passenger that is lucky enough to be on the Autism Spectrum, was doing what they probably normally do, and that deserved downrating? And you called Uber I'm guessing in case they downrated you maybe?
I'm so glad you can drive your acceptable 'disabled passengers' though. The passenger on the Spectrum was rude also? Poor driver! I'll bet Uber was SO GLAD you alerted them!- NOT!

I'm sorry but among other things, my 2 sons are both on the Autism Spectrum. They're NOT Autistic- they have Autism.
You probably don't see the the difference, but IMHO- it is rather rude to refer to someone as 'Autisitc'.
Rant over,

I hope the rest of your neurotypical day went well, with neurotypical passengers.
Wow. Do you feel better after letting that out?

Actually I've driven a number of mentally disabled passengers. There's a local fellow that Ubers to the gym and to a medical building.

What I do have a problem with his people who might want to jump out of my vehicle. This is a Rideshare service, not a medical transport.

If this person who has a penchant for opening doors while the vehicle is in motion was on Airline flight and started tugging on the door handle do you think the passengers, crew and pilot would be okay with that? If not would you call them out for being anti handicapped?

You down rated them b/c the passenger that is lucky enough to be on the Autism Spectrum, was doing what they probably normally do, and that deserved downrating? And you called Uber I'm guessing in case they downrated you maybe?
I'm so glad you can drive your acceptable 'disabled passengers' though. The passenger on the Spectrum was rude also? Poor driver! I'll bet Uber was SO GLAD you alerted them!- NOT!

I'm sorry but among other things, my 2 sons are both on the Autism Spectrum. They're NOT Autistic- they have Autism.
You probably don't see the the difference, but IMHO- it is rather rude to refer to someone as 'Autisitc'.
Rant over,

I hope the rest of your neurotypical day went well, with neurotypical passengers.
Oh by the way, did I mention that Uber told me that that type of behavior is against their terms and they agreed it was a safety issue?

Standing up on my feet, and getting out of my car and then sliding a button on the rear door seems like an unreasonable l, time consuming and ridiculous amount of work.

And don't forget I'm gonna have to sit back down in my car again
For some reason my car doesn't have child locks on the rear doors.
Also I felt like she should have given me a heads-up before I got there.
 

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You down rated them b/c the passenger that is lucky enough to be on the Autism Spectrum, was doing what they probably normally do, and that deserved downrating? And you called Uber I'm guessing in case they downrated you maybe?
I'm so glad you can drive your acceptable 'disabled passengers' though. The passenger on the Spectrum was rude also? Poor driver! I'll bet Uber was SO GLAD you alerted them!- NOT!

I'm sorry but among other things, my 2 sons are both on the Autism Spectrum. They're NOT Autistic- they have Autism.
You probably don't see the the difference, but IMHO- it is rather rude to refer to someone as 'Autisitc'.
Rant over,

I hope the rest of your neurotypical day went well, with neurotypical passengers.
Lol you're cute. So driver's a bad guy because pulling on the door handle is dangerous huh? Interesting.
 

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Wow. Do you feel better after letting that out?

Actually I've driven a number of mentally disabled passengers. There's a local fellow that Ubers to the gym and to a medical building.

What I do have a problem with his people who might want to jump out of my vehicle. This is a Rideshare service, not a medical transport.

If this person who has a penchant for opening doors while the vehicle is in motion was on Airline flight and started tugging on the door handle do you think the passengers, crew and pilot would be okay with that? If not would you call them out for being anti handicapped?


Oh by the way, did I mention that Uber told me that that type of behavior is against their terms and they agreed it was a safety issue?


For some reason my car doesn't have child locks on the rear doors.
Also I felt like she should have given me a heads-up before I got there.
I would like to think flight attendants would ask to move them from the exit rows, or stick that kid in the overhead compartment for safety reasons
 

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Did you at least learn to seat any possible safety threat on the passenger side?

I actually had a very similar ride last year. Mom and son though. She warned me that he was likely to "act up" and didn't like being cramped. I had her sit behind me and put the front passenger seat in full "nobody is sitting here mode". He hit the back of the seat a couple of times and undid his seatbelt 2 or 3 times (Mom fixed), but that was it. I can't recall if she tipped, but I wasn't downrated and it was a fairly long ride. Plan for the worst, hope for the best, and empathize.
I do empathize. I would have felt better about the whole thing head the person who booked the ride reached out in advance and asked do you have child locks on your doors? One of the passengers is autistic. I'm sure if they had done that regularly they would have a higher cancellation rate but I think it's only fair that they be upfront about that not just blurt it out after everyone's in the car and the doors are shut. Honesty goes a long way in starting out the relationship right. I'm sure you like me have had lots of riders tell you in advance that they are handicapped, need extra time, have a comfort animal etc etc. All of those things would be fine without a pre-warning but they just wanted to let me know up front what to expect.
She gave you a heads up! She made a perfectly reasonable request because of course she knows there could be issues.
Uh, yes you do! Your first impulse was to cancel when you heard autistic. Politely- poor form dude.
No you are wrong. I didn't want to cancel because the person is autistic, I wanted to cancel because the person has the habit of opening the doors while the car is in motion and perhaps jumping out. Do you see the difference?

It's funny to see all the people virtue signaling on this thread.

And I'm sorry but I know that whenever people start a sentence with "I'm sorry but... " it means they're really not sorry. So you can take your sorry butt on down the road.
 

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Another ant is thinking if himself as worth more than he is. You used the child lock, problem solved. But then you had to act up, and waste your worthless time reporting to Uber, which, first, doesn't give a shit about your reports, second, will deactivate you at will, regardless whether you did anything wrong. Way to go! LOL
 

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Another ant is thinking if himself as worth more than he is. You used the child lock, problem solved. But then you had to act up, and waste your worthless time reporting to Uber, which, first, doesn't give a shit about your reports, second, will deactivate you at will, regardless whether you did anything wrong. Way to go! LOL
Did you ever stop to think of this from Uber's perspective? Do you realize what Uber's liability would be if something was to happen during the ride like the person falling out of a moving car or doing something to the driver which causes an accident?

And thanks for the personal attacks. It really elevates the discussion.
 

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My eldest has Aspergers, always high functioning and with help is 99.999% like most others (if that is good). Biggest problem is overzealous drive for mods on his pickup. Yes, and he drives very well. Love that kid!

Several of my riders are on spectrum, and a few are able to ride by themselves now that they are comfortable with me. The others require guides/chaperones /assistant /caretaker to accompany and even then was a big challenge in beginning. Once these bright lights (not intended to be derogatory) became accustomed to me, their world expands and its like interacting with a near-typucal person. Most just don't get hyperbole / exaggerations, nor do they get a lot of apple-orange comparisons.

One has begun riding up front, caretaker in back sitting in middle. She is aware I will slap her hand if reach past blue tape I put on dash (painters tape) and she respects that boundary. She is an aficionado for gadgets and checks most everything out during the ride. Incl radio. My Amp is no longer used, and I will sit that on the dash and let it go through various colors. The young Miss is mesmerized. She is able to say the name of color 30 seconds away, and be correct. She can tell me when battery is low, without any other apparent indicator.

There is zero highway driving for all. It can be too bothersome / disturbing when a loud vehicle races by speeding. It's also easier on the people watchers, though most are looking at features of buildings and pointing out irregularities such as uneven curves on McDonald arch (owner was amazed, and said 1 side drooped by bit over an inch) 30 feet in the air.

The caretakers and I coordinate whenever possible due to special needs. They call for availability, I respond, and will be in front of house when request comes through. Uber is aware, and tho is outside of TOS, they are flexible to recognize the accommodation of special needs in these circumstances. I still drive on app, and at pickup I will turn on last ride since length is unknown.

I can completely understand the OP comments, actions, and defense. I also support OP giving Uber heads up. It won't affect OP, but it does help the rider and caregiver. I will even go further and say if OP were to be paired with this particular rider combination that it will become less stressful each time afterwards and panic activities will lessen to nearly nothing, if not nothing. It really does matter about familiarity of people and environment. It's unfortunate that it is not possible (within TOS and app) to request a particular driver and a particular vehicle.

Many of the caretakers have used security vests / jackets to help provide comfort and assurance. Others just need to bring along a favorite blanket / toy /stuffed animal. One brings along the *only* single emotional support animal I will ever transport, happens to be a dachshund, a breed I favor.

To clarify use of tape. I don't have to use it often, but on occasion I will. I will put pieces of tape down seat top to bottom, along edge of seat in front, along window, etc. It creates their personal space. I don't reach in, they don't reach out. Usually, the bright light (again, not derogatory) will assist by showing me where it should go or I let them do it themselves. The latter usually is more effective.

Sine don't like blue, others like white, or insist on being green (dark and light). I carry all 4 colors, plus pink, red, and black). None of them like camouflage, pattern is too irregular.

I have literally had a bright star's therapist ride along to observe the completely different person. They had to see for themselves to adjust whatever.
 
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