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Sabatoge from the insides won't work with uber. There is x amount of pax and y amount of drivers. Supply greatly outweighs demand.
The main reason why unity won't work with drivers is because too many stupid uneducated illeterate people behind the wheel. Just for fun, I had drivers pick up pings from 25 minutes away for uber x. Of course I cancel within minutes, but I so get the urge to text them you are a stupid idiot for willing to drive 20 miles to pick up what could be a $4 dollar run.
Folks, I've been saying this before we knew what uber was, cabbing is half a notch above homelessness.
[QUOTE="UberLou, post: 510097, memDo I agree with all the rules? NO!!! But as long as they are the rules I will abide by them.[/QUOTE]
...yes, the constantly shifting, impossibly difficult to keep track of UBER rules. Why? Let me restate my oft stated mantra: IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS COMPLICATED TO DRIVE PEOPLE AROUND IN A CAB.
...yes, the constantly shifting, impossibly difficult to keep track of UBER rules. Why? Let me restate my oft stated mantra: IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS COMPLICATED TO DRIVE PEOPLE AROUND IN A CAB.
You remember that pop up window that came up and said you could not drive until you agree to the terms when logging on to the app? Read it next time, not that difficult.
In some markets like here in Madison, they are NOT paying the drivers for cancellations. We received this notice in our weekly email.....
Cancellation Fee
There is no longer a cancellation fee for our partners and riders. If you've waited for a rider for 5 minutes and have been unable to make contact, you are welcome to cancel the trip and go back online so you can get another request.
That is largely a result of Uber transferring the cost of car ownership to the driver and then enforcing rates below cost in order to crush any and all competition. By terracing rates Uber charges slightly from market to market and the use of extraordinarily high rates in new markets, Uber creates a natural division among drivers. The fact that such a wide range of cars with greatly differing costs to operate further creates disagreement.
Drivers sign up and agree to certain terms. However, that doesn't mean that Uber should dimply be given the ability to change their policies at their own whim. Rates are literally below the cost for drivers to operate in cities such as Detroit. SUch pricing models bring to the front anti-trust concerns. Such behavior by Uber should very much be resisted.
Uber itself is famous for agreeing to one thing and doing another, as they please at their whim where compliance to local regulations are concerned. A person could create a list then of examples as long as their arm of examples without much difficulty.
I earlier mentioned Uber's tendency to terrace the rates they charge from market to market. They do this while mostly setting prices for service at noncompetitive rates. Just be there is a chosen lucky few fortunate enough to be in a town where it is possible to make it, is not enough to hold drivers in low rate, low surge markets hostage from sticking their neck out and working for change.
Kalanick himself praises the power of disruption. His own drivers are in no way immune from his disruptive efforts. It stands to reason it is the only language he is willing to listen to.
Just because a driver agrees to a particular contract doesn't mean it was carried out in good faith, there is overwhelming evidence the partnership, which claims drivers are independent contractors has not been carried out in good faith. For that reason, in spite of a few drivers able to make a go of it, drivers should act stand up for themselves in protest. To do so is reasonable.
.... and by suggesting they haven't acted in good faith: Denial of fiduciary responsibility, a grey area but less so in face of their dramatic rate cuts after rolling out the program with Santander. Forcing drivers to be complicit in anti-trust behavior (forcing them to operate virtually at a loss). Forcing such compliance also destroys any possibility for a competitive alternative. Those are just two glaring examples.
Without cancellation fees as an incentive, city drivers will only wait a minute before canceling no show. Pax will complain, then stop using it.
A good way to protest would be for riders to request and cancel rides all the time in those markets on strike weekend. It'll effectively shut down service because drivers will stop responding to pings
wrong. it's time for us to realize that uber will always side with the pax. uber will threaten to deactivate you for giving pax a "poor experience". uber has every single driver in check with their threats. you can't beat uber on your own by trying to find a way to game uber. we must do this together. we need a voice. let us speak clearly on Oct 16 at 5pm. this is unacceptable.
wrong. it's time for us to realize that uber will always side with the pax. uber will threaten to deactivate you for giving pax a "poor experience". uber has every single driver in check with their threats. you can' beat uber on your own by trying to find a way to game uber. we must do this together. we need a voice. let us speak clearly on Oct 16 at 5pm. this is unacceptable.
I keep getting reassured by Uber email "Rochelle" that the cancel fee in Indianapolis is $5.
I keep telling her the website says zero dollars on the pay schedule (Pax can see it also)
She keeps telling me, after numerous ways of asking "are you sure, the website says zero dollars" that yes, UberX has a $5 cancel fee.
Last night I had the opportunity to test it.
I set my timer a good 30-40 seconds AFTER arrival. Pin was in the wrong place according to phone call from pax after 4 minutes.
I gave it until the timer went off, should have been close to 6 minutes by then. I canceled, and went to the address the pax gave me on the phone.
She was there, wondering what happened. I said "I don't know, the screen went blank on me" She simply ordered me up again, and I took her to destination.
Here's what "Rochelle" wrote:
Rochelle (Uber)
Oct 7, 09:39
Hi Tim,
As I looked further and verified, the cancellation fee for Indianapolis for uberX and uberXL is $5. I apologize for the confusion. Rest assured that the site will be updated soon as I have already reported it.
I really appreciate your effort in letting us know about this.
Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any other questions or concerns. We're here to help.
Rochelle
help.uber.com
Here's the cancel I tested last night, 6 minute wait with a phone call: Date
October 9, 2015 Driver
{Redacted} Vehicle
{Redacted} Requested Vehicle
uberX Time
8:47PM Duration
0:00 Miles
0.0 Fare
$0.00
I had 2 no shows tonight and 1 yesterday. None paid automatically. When I emailed immediately after cancelling all were adjusted within 15 minutes. I'll let you all know if they stay. I did have to email a second time on one as it was only done as $5 not $6 fee.
Maybe the CSRs just don't know yet or maybe the new policy is don't pay it unless the driver *****es.
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