[Halfmybrain]

Using DF around 2 am Monday. I got a 35-minute trip toward my destination (home). So what if it was a pool ride? I rarely get such a long jump toward home. So, I picked the kid up (23 yo) from Cicero, then a woman just a little older, perhaps. He was drunk, and was hitting on her and he wasn't paying attention to her signals--since she was being very nice. He wasn't being a beast, but was laying it on a bit thick. Still, as her dropoff approached, I started thinking I didn't want him to know where she lived, and was pretty sure she felt that way, too (she confirmed this later). I considered dropping her off a few houses away from her place (nice area in Berwyn) but didn't know if she'd catch on.

I had a minute or two to consider my course. When I decided on it, it was confident and final, no misgivings. I pulled over to a McDonalds a few blocks from her dropoff and asked him to get out of the car, and I'd pick him up. It was not a request, it was the conditions of getting him home. I was aware that his phone had died but he was pretty passive and I don't think he would have called another car even if he had juice.

I wanted her to feel safe and unfortunately women (in my experience) still don't know the power they have to shun a guy or put them in their place--politely but firmly. I think of the rideshare video where some letch gets in along with a few ladies, and they NEVER directly say anything, but the driver catches on that he was a passively-allowed stowaway on their trip. He pulled over and booted the guy, ONLY THEN to hear from the ladies that he was a creep and they didn't want anything to do with him.

So yeah, he got out. I dropped her off, I circled back. I parked the car and I got out, wanting to see if he (a) understood, if not agreed, with what I had done, and (b) wanted to continue and (c) was his attitude right? He seemed okay, although offended but he contained it (it was his feelings, not my fault). Fair enough, I told him I understood, yes, i had disrespected him AND I did it to keep her safe. He admitted if he had a neice or a sister, he would have wanted a driver to do exactly what I did. I repeated to him my decision was 5% about him and 95% about her. When I dropped him off, he drunk-shook my hand 3 times and said he'd tip me $20 which would be quite a feat, since his cousin paid for the ride. Oh yeah, he said he's an Uber driver.

 

[ntcindetroit]

What if the property owner refuses the trespassing? Should the driver/op just cancel the ride for him for safety?

 

[dachix2017]

I guess you were overthinking

 

[UberBeemer]

Using DF around 2 am Monday. I got a 35-minute trip toward my destination (home). So what if it was a pool ride? I rarely get such a long jump toward home. So, I picked the kid up (23 yo) from Cicero, then a woman just a little older, perhaps. He was drunk, and was hitting on her and he wasn't paying attention to her signals--since she was being very nice. He wasn't being a beast, but was laying it on a bit thick. Still, as her dropoff approached, I started thinking I didn't want him to know where she lived, and was pretty sure she felt that way, too (she confirmed this later). I considered dropping her off a few houses away from her place (nice area in Berwyn) but didn't know if she'd catch on.

I had a minute or two to consider my course. When I decided on it, it was confident and final, no misgivings. I pulled over to a McDonalds a few blocks from her dropoff and asked him to get out of the car, and I'd pick him up. It was not a request, it was the conditions of getting him home. I was aware that his phone had died but he was pretty passive and I don't think he would have called another car even if he had juice.

I wanted her to feel safe and unfortunately women (in my experience) still don't know the power they have to shun a guy or put them in their place--politely but firmly. I think of the rideshare video where some letch gets in along with a few ladies, and they NEVER directly say anything, but the driver catches on that he was a passively-allowed stowaway on their trip. He pulled over and booted the guy, ONLY THEN to hear from the ladies that he was a creep and they didn't want anything to do with him.

So yeah, he got out. I dropped her off, I circled back. I parked the car and I got out, wanting to see if he (a) understood, if not agreed, with what I had done, and (b) wanted to continue and (c) was his attitude right? He seemed okay, although offended but he contained it (it was his feelings, not my fault). Fair enough, I told him I understood, yes, i had disrespected him AND I did it to keep her safe. He admitted if he had a neice or a sister, he would have wanted a driver to do exactly what I did. I repeated to him my decision was 5% about him and 95% about her. When I dropped him off, he drunk-shook my hand 3 times and said he'd tip me $20 which would be quite a feat, since his cousin paid for the ride. Oh yeah, he said he's an Uber driver.

Well played

 

[u_no_me]

I know it's sometimes hard to think quick on the spot, but I think the best thing would have been instead just to ask her "Where would you feel comfortable being dropped off?", especially if you knew it was a decent neighborhood.

 

[Halfmybrain]

I know it's sometimes hard to think quick on the spot, but I think the best thing would have been instead just to ask her "Where would you feel comfortable being dropped off?", especially if you knew it was a decent neighborhood.

That's a diplomatic way to put it. Based on her very subtle rebuffs to the aggressive guy, I concluded that she was not intuitive or as clever as could be, and decided against that type of approach.

Paraphrased snippets: I have a boyfriend/I can be your side guy.

 

[dachix2017]

The rider can see all drop off locations while still in the car as well as the driver

 

[Halfmybrain]

addresses or pins?

in this case it's a moot point because the account holder (cousin) wasn't present, and the rider's phone was dead. but this is good info to know!

 

[ntcindetroit]

Using DF around 2 am Monday. I got a 35-minute trip toward my destination (home). So what if it was a pool ride? I rarely get such a long jump toward home. So, I picked the kid up (23 yo) from Cicero, then a woman just a little older, perhaps. He was drunk, and was hitting on her and he wasn't paying attention to her signals--since she was being very nice. He wasn't being a beast, but was laying it on a bit thick. Still, as her dropoff approached, I started thinking I didn't want him to know where she lived, and was pretty sure she felt that way, too (she confirmed this later). I considered dropping her off a few houses away from her place (nice area in Berwyn) but didn't know if she'd catch on.

I had a minute or two to consider my course. When I decided on it, it was confident and final, no misgivings. I pulled over to a McDonalds a few blocks from her dropoff and asked him to get out of the car, and I'd pick him up. It was not a request, it was the conditions of getting him home. I was aware that his phone had died but he was pretty passive and I don't think he would have called another car even if he had juice.

I wanted her to feel safe and unfortunately women (in my experience) still don't know the power they have to shun a guy or put them in their place--politely but firmly. I think of the rideshare video where some letch gets in along with a few ladies, and they NEVER directly say anything, but the driver catches on that he was a passively-allowed stowaway on their trip. He pulled over and booted the guy, ONLY THEN to hear from the ladies that he was a creep and they didn't want anything to do with him.

So yeah, he got out. I dropped her off, I circled back. I parked the car and I got out, wanting to see if he (a) understood, if not agreed, with what I had done, and (b) wanted to continue and (c) was his attitude right? He seemed okay, although offended but he contained it (it was his feelings, not my fault). Fair enough, I told him I understood, yes, i had disrespected him AND I did it to keep her safe. He admitted if he had a neice or a sister, he would have wanted a driver to do exactly what I did. I repeated to him my decision was 5% about him and 95% about her. When I dropped him off, he drunk-shook my hand 3 times and said he'd tip me $20 which would be quite a feat, since his cousin paid for the ride. Oh yeah, he said he's an Uber driver.

"Oh yeah, he said he's an Uber driver. "

 

[Ankido]

You kicked a client out over a pool ride that is shared among riders. People want to be cheap, they need to deal with the situation. You are not a security guard and the safety of your passengers are during your time which you failed. Had he been jumped or something tragic happen to him, you would be held responsible for your actions leaving a client somewhere else where his ride was still active. You either kick him for misconduct and harassment, or you continue the ride. It's the consequences pools need to deal with.

I believe you are trying to score points with her yourself and made a bonehead move as a professional. That was quite sexist of you. You should have dropped him off first and explained to her later. Think next time before you act. Had that guy been me, you would'nt be driving anymore. You don't leave clients somewhere during an active ride.

p.s
you used half your brain hahahahaha I had to

 

[karachi]

You kicked a client out over a pool ride that is shared among riders. People want to be cheap, they need to deal with the situation. You are not a security guard and the safety of your passengers are during your time which you failed. Had he been jumped or something tragic happen to him, you would be held responsible for your actions leaving a client somewhere else where his ride was still active. You either kick him for misconduct and harassment, or you continue the ride. It's the consequences pools need to deal with.

I believe you are trying to score points with her yourself and made a bonehead move as a professional. That was quite sexist of you. You should have dropped him off first and explained to her later. Think next time before you act. Had that guy been me, you would'nt be driving anymore. You don't leave clients somewhere during an active ride.

p.s
you used half your brain hahahahaha I had to

Good lord, I'll leave my light-work to fellow forum members who can decipher your mumbling garbage..and this even though I am not a big fan of half-brain guy..but don't expect to be all quiet and then be able to come here and dump on an active member without a response.

@Ad nauseam I'm looking at you

 

[Ad nauseam]

@karachi , very ad-ish!

 

[karachi]

@karachi , very ad-ish!

Learned from the pro..

 

[Ad nauseam]

Ad, leave @Aniko alone. His diatribe on rideshare in the newbie thread remains one of Chicago's best ever posts. How's that for "active?"

 

[karachi]

Ad, leave @Aniko alone. His diatribe on rideshare in the newbie thread remains one of Chicago's best ever posts. How's that for "active?"

I stand corrected. @Aniko has contributed something. I just don't roam the newbie section much..

 

[Ankido]

I'm sorry. It's common sense. Your job is your job. Drive. Leaving a client behind while his fare is active could lead to consequences. The clients action does not reflect on you. The 2nd client's life is not in jeopardy. I just think the OP was being sexist and trying to score points by being the "nice guy". You want a pool you should expect idiots to ride with you. Can't handle it, she needed to get X. Maybe she didn't care and you just made a big deal. Trust me. I'm not a noob. Something is off with this story and hard to tell if it's true.

 

[The Drive Guy]

Using DF around 2 am Monday. I got a 35-minute trip toward my destination (home). So what if it was a pool ride? I rarely get such a long jump toward home. So, I picked the kid up (23 yo) from Cicero, then a woman just a little older, perhaps. He was drunk, and was hitting on her and he wasn't paying attention to her signals--since she was being very nice. He wasn't being a beast, but was laying it on a bit thick. Still, as her dropoff approached, I started thinking I didn't want him to know where she lived, and was pretty sure she felt that way, too (she confirmed this later). I considered dropping her off a few houses away from her place (nice area in Berwyn) but didn't know if she'd catch on.

I had a minute or two to consider my course. When I decided on it, it was confident and final, no misgivings. I pulled over to a McDonalds a few blocks from her dropoff and asked him to get out of the car, and I'd pick him up. It was not a request, it was the conditions of getting him home. I was aware that his phone had died but he was pretty passive and I don't think he would have called another car even if he had juice.

I wanted her to feel safe and unfortunately women (in my experience) still don't know the power they have to shun a guy or put them in their place--politely but firmly. I think of the rideshare video where some letch gets in along with a few ladies, and they NEVER directly say anything, but the driver catches on that he was a passively-allowed stowaway on their trip. He pulled over and booted the guy, ONLY THEN to hear from the ladies that he was a creep and they didn't want anything to do with him.

So yeah, he got out. I dropped her off, I circled back. I parked the car and I got out, wanting to see if he (a) understood, if not agreed, with what I had done, and (b) wanted to continue and (c) was his attitude right? He seemed okay, although offended but he contained it (it was his feelings, not my fault). Fair enough, I told him I understood, yes, i had disrespected him AND I did it to keep her safe. He admitted if he had a neice or a sister, he would have wanted a driver to do exactly what I did. I repeated to him my decision was 5% about him and 95% about her. When I dropped him off, he drunk-shook my hand 3 times and said he'd tip me $20 which would be quite a feat, since his cousin paid for the ride. Oh yeah, he said he's an Uber driver.

Why would you kick a passenger out of a Pool ride? The passenger requested a ride knowing that other passengers would be riding in the car. Did you think that maybe she was more uncomfortable with You knowing where she lived as opposed to the passenger? Was the real issue some type of jealousy? Did you ever think that perhaps she was being polite because she was in the process of considering maybe ending her night with a young guy? Was all that worth risking being permanently deactivated? If the passenger you kicked out reports the incident to Uber. You will be removed from the driving platform. Bro .... You kicked a passenger out of a Pool ride that he paid for. A passenger who you described as passive. You then went back to pick him up. You do realize that you added both time and distance to his fare and put it in your pocket. Meanwhile, on one of your earlier Pool rides .... a dude who was perfectly sober and said nothing during the ride is the guy who made note of a female Pool rider address and is the one who came back later to do harm.

 

[dachix2017]

addresses or pins?

in this case it's a moot point because the account holder (cousin) wasn't present, and the rider's phone was dead. but this is good info to know!

From my own experiences, addresses- the same as shown in driver's app. And riders had tracks of all routes before his/her drop off in their uber rider app.

 

[PixieForce]

From my own experiences, addresses- the same as shown in driver's app. And riders had tracks of all routes before his/her drop off in their uber rider app.

yeah pretty sure it's addresses.My app glitched the other day and wouldn't show me anything (and it was during a pool ride) and the other passenger looked at his phone and was like "hey I know how to get there" and directed me and once I got to the location the app unglitched. I guess it could have given just like a street/intersection but it's probably the address.

Also as a female I get it and she could have been uncomfortable but I feel like that's suuuuuuper iffy. If it weren't his cousin's account and his phone wasn't dead and he complained to uber I feel like you would be reprimanded for that, as he is still getting charged for distance/time while you leave to drop her off and him getting out of the car and you not ending his ride could be seen as like scamming him for money. Same as if you dropped someone off at their location and kept driving a little while longer before ending the ride.

 

[Halfmybrain]

You kicked a client out over a pool ride that is shared among riders. People want to be cheap, they need to deal with the situation. You are not a security guard and the safety of your passengers are during your time which you failed. Had he been jumped or something tragic happen to him, you would be held responsible for your actions leaving a client somewhere else where his ride was still active. You either kick him for misconduct and harassment, or you continue the ride. It's the consequences pools need to deal with.

I believe you are trying to score points with her yourself and made a bonehead move as a professional. That was quite sexist of you. You should have dropped him off first and explained to her later. Think next time before you act. Had that guy been me, you would'nt be driving anymore. You don't leave clients somewhere during an active ride.

p.s
you used half your brain hahahahaha I had to

Very good, I appreciate the slap upside the head. I agree with just about all of your post.

Drop a guy off in Romeoville and circle back to Berwyn? Not gonna happen (Esp. when the ride was "Toward my Destination" beyond Romeoville).

For the deviant (I like how you think) who suggested that I misconstrued the girl playing hard to get (my words, not yours), or that I had designs on the girl myself (I think that was one of the things you threw against the wall to see if it stuck...that particular wall is Teflon)....I know uncomfortable when I hear it--and she confirmed this for me when the guy left the car. I kinda think if she was being coy, it would have ended when I said, "Alright, you need to get out of the car."

For the person who said I added to the pool ride distance and pocketed the money: No way I added to the guy's charge. I've driven much further off course by missing an exit or trying a shortcut, and asked Uber to refund the rider for the difference, and take it out of my earnings--and they say the reroute was within their original estimate to the rider.

Did I consider that the rider was going pretty far and booting him out, outright would cost me--yes.

Did I consider that he had no charge on his phone and could not easily get himself another ride? Yes.

It was a judgment call, I had good intentions, but @Ankido is right, his safety (while I had him listed as an active rider) was, first priority, on me.