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334 + 50[hertz insirance/i added it just in case] + tax and charging(about 100) = total came out about 554 for first week.

my question is do i really need extra hertz rental car insurance?

also can i drive thru express lanes and carpools anytime if i have passenger?

many passengers told me why dont i just buy used tesla if i pay about 2200 a monthes… do you also think its better just purchase used tesla model 3?

Drive safe and stay safe whoever read this :)
 

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334 + 50[hertz insurance/i added it just in case] + tax and charging(about 100) = total came out about 554 for first week.

my question is do i really need extra hertz rental car insurance?

also can i drive thru express lanes and carpools anytime if i have passenger?

many passengers told me why don't i just buy used tesla if i pay about 2200 a month… do you also think its better just purchase used tesla model 3?

Drive safe and stay safe whoever read this :)
It's been many drivers experiences that renting, especially an expensive vehicle like a Tesla, isn't the way to go.

You DO need the Hertz insurance or else they try to charge you for every little spec of damage. The rims scrape curbs, the faux leather seats bubble, people key the car and hit it on purpose, etc. Any major repairs have to go back to factory. You might not get another Tesla right away.

As far as the carpool lanes, tolls etc.,you should check with Hertz as tolls go on the vehicle, however Uber reimburses you do you may have to reimburse Hertz later. People have been arrested by Hertz for errors in their system or staff mistakes, for stealing their cars after renting, including Uber drivers.

Spending $2000 a month for a used Tesla or any vehicle for rideshare, due to the low pay, is completely insane. That equates to $24,000 a year just for the vehicle, not including charging fees, replacement tires, repairs etc.

The median average gross income of a 70 hours of driving weekly rideshare driver is about $1500. But it can go as low as $1000 a week sometimes or as high as $3000 in rare freak times of extreme demand.

The problem with Tesla's is their high frequency of charging due to poor range. It's the future, just electrics are not quite ready for the mainstream market yet. I sometimes do over 800 miles in a day. So there is a lot of money and trips your going to have to cancel because you don't have enough charge.

I've done 85,000 miles in a year and only taxed on $15,000 of income for $3600. A very busy post covid lockdown year I did 100,000 miles for $30,000 taxed for $10,000, so only made $20,000 for driving 7 hours a day everyday last year.

Uber doesn't pay enough for the same amount of effort of a regular job. The big money coming in looks good, but it goes out just as fast.

MIT suggests one DON'T do Uber for a living, but if you do, do not spend more that $20,000 for your vehicles as the high annual mileage burns them out.

A typical, well taken care of ice vehicle can last 300,000 miles Good local repairs are essential.

Although with a rental, flat tires and repairs etc are not your problem, but being stuck on the side of the road with no way home certainly is.

On my end I started Uber with a $20,000 F-150, the most popular selling vehicle in the US. I put 340,000 Uber miles on it's existing 100,000 miles for a total of 440,000 miles. I've had a few parts replaced sure nothing drastic. It looks and runs nearly like new.

Despite being a gas vehicle, after 3.5 years I now have $60,000 saved up and Uber says I can keep using the same vehicle for another 7 more years!

So your burning $24,000 a year for your vehicle (although electric so it does save on fuel) and I'm spending $20,000 for 11 years at say, $100 a day for fuel. My case is better because I'm not having to pay if I'm not driving you still have to pay for your rental so basically it's forcing you to drive looking for trips. For me I just wait at home spending nothing unless it's profitable. 😁

The Tesla is going to need replacement batteries, why they are on the used market. Those cost $20,000 and it has to go back to factory.

Until the charging time is very fast, all gas stations have a quick EV pump, the range is more than 800 miles, it's not profitable to use EVs at this time.

I'm all for getting an electric SUV that seats 6 comfortably with luggage, 800+ range, quick charge, easily replaced locally batteries and repairs. Just not ready yet, not at the chump change they pay us.
 

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It's been many drivers experiences that renting, especially an expensive vehicle like a Tesla, isn't the way to go.

You DO need the Hertz insurance or else they try to charge you for every little spec of damage. The rims scrape curbs, the faux leather seats bubble, people key the car and hit it on purpose, etc. Any major repairs have to go back to factory. You might not get another Tesla right away.

As far as the carpool lanes, tolls etc.,you should check with Hertz as tolls go on the vehicle, however Uber reimburses you do you may have to reimburse Hertz later. People have been arrested by Hertz for errors in their system or staff mistakes, for stealing their cars after renting, including Uber drivers.

Spending $2000 a month for a used Tesla or any vehicle for rideshare, due to the low pay, is completely insane. That equates to $24,000 a year just for the vehicle, not including charging fees, replacement tires, repairs etc.

The median average gross income of a 70 hours of driving weekly rideshare driver is about $1500. But it can go as low as $1000 a week sometimes or as high as $3000 in rare freak times of extreme demand.

The problem with Tesla's is their high frequency of charging due to poor range. It's the future, just electrics are not quite ready for the mainstream market yet. I sometimes do over 800 miles in a day. So there is a lot of money and trips your going to have to cancel because you don't have enough charge.

I've done 85,000 miles in a year and only taxed on $15,000 of income for $3600. A very busy post covid lockdown year I did 100,000 miles for $30,000 taxed for $10,000, so only made $20,000 for driving 7 hours a day everyday last year.

Uber doesn't pay enough for the same amount of effort of a regular job. The big money coming in looks good, but it goes out just as fast.

MIT suggests one DON'T do Uber for a living, but if you do, do not spend more that $20,000 for your vehicles as the high annual mileage burns them out.

A typical, well taken care of ice vehicle can last 300,000 miles Good local repairs are essential.

Although with a rental, flat tires and repairs etc are not your problem, but being stuck on the side of the road with no way home certainly is.

On my end I started Uber with a $20,000 F-150, the most popular selling vehicle in the US. I put 340,000 Uber miles on it's existing 100,000 miles for a total of 440,000 miles. I've had a few parts replaced sure nothing drastic. It looks and runs nearly like new.

Despite being a gas vehicle, after 3.5 years I now have $60,000 saved up and Uber says I can keep using the same vehicle for another 7 more years!

So your burning $24,000 a year for your vehicle (although electric so it does save on fuel) and I'm spending $20,000 for 11 years at say, $100 a day for fuel. My case is better because I'm not having to pay if I'm not driving you still have to pay for your rental so basically it's forcing you to drive looking for trips. For me I just wait at home spending nothing unless it's profitable. 😁

The Tesla is going to need replacement batteries, why they are on the used market. Those cost $20,000 and it has to go back to factory.

Until the charging time is very fast, all gas stations have a quick EV pump, the range is more than 800 miles, it's not profitable to use EVs at this time.

I'm all for getting an electric SUV that seats 6 comfortably with luggage, 800+ range, quick charge, easily replaced locally batteries and repairs. Just not ready yet, not at the chump change they pay us.
i deeply appreciated your valuable advise and opinion.

yes i also hope there would be genius person gonna make comfy fullsize ev suv with about 800miles range in the future😄

thank you sir and i wish you a luck🤟
 

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334 + 50[hertz insirance/i added it just in case] + tax and charging(about 100) = total came out about 554 for first week.

my question is do i really need extra hertz rental car insurance?

also can i drive thru express lanes and carpools anytime if i have passenger?

many passengers told me why dont i just buy used tesla if i pay about 2200 a monthes… do you also think its better just purchase used tesla model 3?

Drive safe and stay safe whoever read this :)
554 per week?
PER WEEK?
554×52=28808

$28808 per year to borrow a car?

To borrow a car.

And you're asking about insurance?
 

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Hey, could you take some screen shots of some surge maps you get and post them here? I'm really curious about the Hertz promotions you're getting, if you don't mind?

I wish you the best of luck with this. You don't know, if you don't try. It's for a month. The biggest regret would be not trying and never knowing.
 

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334 + 50[hertz insirance/i added it just in case] + tax and charging(about 100) = total came out about 554 for first week.

my question is do i really need extra hertz rental car insurance?

also can i drive thru express lanes and carpools anytime if i have passenger?

many passengers told me why dont i just buy used tesla if i pay about 2200 a monthes… do you also think its better just purchase used tesla model 3?

Drive safe and stay safe whoever read this :)
As far as the insurance goes that depends.

Do you have $46,900 you can afford to lose?

Do you live in a motel and have zero assets to your name?

No? then Yes you need the extra insurance. If you don't have it you have to pay out of pocket to fix the car or else go bankrupt after an accident.




Thanks for your total cost numbers I was super curious where it ended up.

$554 a week blows the budget for my market out of the water.

That's more than I pay for Taxi rental for 3 full days and 3 half days.
 

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Hey, could you take some screen shots of some surge maps you get and post them here? I'm really curious about the Hertz promotions you're getting, if you don't mind?

I wish you the best of luck with this. You don't know, if you don't try. It's for a month. The biggest regret would be not trying and never knowing.
id like to tell you that surging situation for me is pretty much same as when i drive with prius. It is just typical, early morning and after midnight those busy areas would be more red colour. I kight be long but to me? It just same as normal car with my week experience
 

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As far as the insurance goes that depends.
No? then Yes you need the extra insurance. If you don't have it you have to pay out of pocket to fix the car or else go bankrupt after an accident.
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$554 a week blows the budget for my market out of the water.
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To be an early EV adapter, one better have a life insurance than worrying about repair bills.
I simply can't entertain the idea of sitting inside a car with an uncontrollable fire from the batteries.
 

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As far as the insurance goes that depends.

Do you have $46,900 you can afford to lose?

Do you live in a motel and have zero assets to your name?

No? then Yes you need the extra insurance. If you don't have it you have to pay out of pocket to fix the car or else go bankrupt after an accident.




Thanks for your total cost numbers I was super curious where it ended up.

$554 a week blows the budget for my market out of the water.

That's more than I pay for Taxi rental for 3 full days and 3 half days.
thank for your opinion and youre welcome:)

but i dont really understand your last sentence..

drive safe!
 

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Buy one if you can and only use rentals when your main vehicle is down. The Avis rental here is $328 a week (with insurance) and I usually spend $20-25 a day in gas so you are not spending much more than anyone else and driving a much nicer vehicle.
 

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A warning to you about the autopilot be careful take my advice don't take it it's up to you,

The autopilot will not see some road debris example, will not see a piece of wood like a 2x4 or a pallet in the road, will not see a ladder, will not see a rock, yes I had a rock in the middle of a freeway a big rock about the size of a toaster,
Autopilot will not see small animals and little children,

Autopilot will Phantom break happened to me about four times,

Autopilot will not break the car at high speed if your foot is even a little bit on the accelerator you will get a small visual warning on the screen, but you may not even notice it so you could be approaching something in high speed with the autopilot and or cruise control on and you will slam right into them,

Also backseat has no manual door release, it's all push button only, so if you get into a car accident and the power gets cut passengers cannot even get out of the back seat,

Some women a few men but mostly women like to try and open the door right as you're approaching a stop right before you actually bring the car to a stop they will try to open the door, well in the Tesla Model 3 you cannot open the door until the car is completely stopped, and some women will freak out,

And that car is not truly midsize, in that car in my normal seating position the back seat passenger has no leg room, if you think that Tesla Model 3 is truly a midsize car, maybe you never been in a midsize Camry or my car the mid size Lincoln mkz,

And also keep in mind you have to drive the Tesla Model 3 like a hybrid staying on top that regenerative braking, if you don't you will get nowhere near the 270 Mi range that's shown on your display that nice big display in the center console, with no other instrumentation available to you, the car is always reminding you that someday it will be your replacement..lol

have fun driving a Tesla Model 3, a complete and total piece of sh.t for ubering.
 

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Let me make a further comment about the Tesla Model 3 cruise control not breaking if your foot is slightly on accelerator, cuz I know somebody on here is going to say why would you have your foot on the accelerator if the cruise control is on,

Let's use a three lane example, let's say you're in Lane 2 you have cruise control set for 70 mph, you decide you want to get over to the right, and you step your foot on the accelerator to go faster so you can get over to the right, but why doing that a car on the left gets over a few spaces in front of you, well if you're busy looking to the right and you have your foot on the accelerator you may not see the car got over in front of you, and since your foot is on the accelerator the test of model 3 will not break, it will slam right into the car.

What I'm saying is don't let the technology of the Tesla Model 3 don't think it's going to save you in every situation, don't get laxy Daisy and start thinking you don't have to drive the car like a normal car with the same precautions with the same always looking out for the other drivers, cuz that car is not 100% that car will kill you if you Lacks.
 

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Obviously never driven one. I’m fine if you never do.
As a matter of fact I've driven two. Two Uber using friends each had one.

One quit and the other rented, turned it in and bought himself another ICE vehicle to Uber with instead.

Why? Too much downtime with charging and changing expensive tires. Too fragile hardware, windows breaking, door handle issues with pax etc.

Thank you early adopters. 😁
 

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334 + 50[hertz insirance/i added it just in case] + tax and charging(about 100) = total came out about 554 for first week.

my question is do i really need extra hertz rental car insurance?

also can i drive thru express lanes and carpools anytime if i have passenger?

many passengers told me why dont i just buy used tesla if i pay about 2200 a monthes… do you also think its better just purchase used tesla model 3?

Drive safe and stay safe whoever read this :)
To cover the rental costs, you need to drive a ton of miles/hours in a week. You are spending 500 on the car, you need to gross north of 1750/wk in order to make it semi-workable.

The problem with the Tesla is that the range isn't enough to cover the amount of miles you need to drive in order to make it profitable.

The Hertz uber rental is a royal screw job. Rent a fuel efficient car or hybrid for less than the Tesla. You will spend a little more after gas, but you won't have to wait around several times a day for your car to recharge.
 

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If I work 42 hours in a normal job, I expect to get 2 hours time and a half. NOT work 40 hours for 2 hrs regular pay... or 70 hours work to get 30-40 normal pay. So why would I want to pay 500 a week for a car.

However,
I was told you do not have to pay any maintenance on the rentals... the company pays for all that. However, a friend rents and sometimes he has to pay out of pocket and they reimburse him. Including tires, brakes, oil changes...

I was told to get the insurance because they will sac you for any damages...

However, I was told you do not need regular car insurance... because uber takes care of that???

Have you ever seen what happens to a lithium battery when it catches fire or explodes. It is violent as hell.

What concerns me is this: Do tesla renters get special treatment with better surge offers and promotions?

We have had entire nights with no surges or boosts between rush hour and when the bars close at 2am on Friday and saturdays!!! This includes one night where there were Football and Baseball Games and 3 concerts. NOT ONE surge. Major traffic and gridlock. I do not rent a Tesla, but have a super nice Prius I had to replace my last one at a premium price. So if they do... it pisses me off.
 
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