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Just what the title says. Both Jobkeeper and Jobseeker are taxable income. Jobseeker is variable according to taxable income whilst Jobkeeper isn't.

Normally Jobkeeper cancels out Jobseeker because the taxable income is higher than the Jobseeker income threshold. However, you can make the taxable income of Jobkeeper less than the threshold allowed by Jobseeker, then receive both payments in full - up to $2600 per fortnight. Here's how:

During Q4 eligible persons will receive $10,500 in Jobkeeper payments. You can earn $104 per fortnight before Jobseeker is affected, or $728 in total. This means you need to write off $9,772 in Q4, in order to be able to report an income of less than $104 each reporting day.

Start with regular income tax write offs: Car depreciation, insurance, maintenance, mobile phone, Internet, home office expenses, etc. For me that adds up to about $3570 per quarter. That leaves $6202. That can be written off with super contributions which are 100% tax deductible.

In my case I can take advantage of the Covid-19 early super fund access, to withdraw $6202, then pay it back to my fund in fortnightly instalments. It will be taxed at 15%, a total of $913, however $500 of that will be refunded by the government as my taxable income for the FY is less than $37,000 so my fund will be down by $413.

At EOFY, my taxable income for Q4 will be $728 plus whatever I receive in Jobseeker allowance. That's it. It might seem dodgy but so does negative gearing.

To claim tax deductions on super contributions you first submit this form:

 

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Don't forget that if any of you are looking to buy a car for rideshare (I don't care whether anyone thinks it's stupid or not, that's not the point) that with the increased 100% write off your taxable income could be close to zero, or at least below the limits Suby has suggested.

Those tax write offs can be carried forward into subsequent financial years if you don't use it up in the current financial year.
 

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Just what the title says. Both Jobkeeper and Jobseeker are taxable income. Jobseeker is variable according to taxable income whilst Jobkeeper isn't.

Normally Jobkeeper cancels out Jobseeker because the taxable income is higher than the Jobseeker income threshold. However, you can make the taxable income of Jobkeeper less than the threshold allowed by Jobseeker, then receive both payments in full - up to $2600 per fortnight. Here's how:

During Q4 eligible persons will receive $10,500 in Jobkeeper payments. You can earn $104 per fortnight before Jobseeker is affected, or $728 in total. This means you need to write off $9,772 in Q4, in order to be able to report an income of less than $104 each reporting day.

Start with regular income tax write offs: Car depreciation, insurance, maintenance, mobile phone, Internet, home office expenses, etc. For me that adds up to about $3570 per quarter. That leaves $6202. That can be written off with super contributions which are 100% tax deductible.

In my case I can take advantage of the Covid-19 early super fund access, to withdraw $6202, then pay it back to my fund in fortnightly instalments. It will be taxed at 15%, a total of $913, however $500 of that will be refunded by the government as my taxable income for the FY is less than $37,000 so my fund will be down by $413.

At EOFY, my taxable income for Q4 will be $728 plus whatever I receive in Jobseeker allowance. That's it. It might seem dodgy but so does negative gearing.

To claim tax deductions on super contributions you first submit this form:

The coronavirus supplement to the JobSeeker payment is tax-free: https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia...lagPost/2020/March/New_coronavirus_supplement.
 

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So Seeker or Keeper aside, has anyone been paid anything by Centrelink so far or even just receive an outcome for application? I hope they hired extra staff to deal with flood of new applicants
 

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So Seeker or Keeper aside, has anyone been paid anything by Centrelink so far or even just receive an outcome for application? I hope they hired extra staff to deal with flood of new applicants
Yep, paid on Monday for Jobseeker. No sign of my Scomo dollars though.
 

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Yep, paid on Monday for Jobseeker. No sign of my Scomo dollars though.
Ditto, approval was quick. Jobkeeper won't be paid before 20 April but will be back paid from 30 Mar.
 

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Unfortunately job seeker payment rate is assessed based on "assessable income" meaning your gross pay before allowable deductions and tax.
The concept you created is based on "taxable income" meaning "assesable income - allowable deductions".

So it won't work.

Your strategy will work however, for FAMILY TAX BENEFIT purposes.
 

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Unfortunately job seeker payment rate is assessed based on "assessable income" meaning your gross pay before allowable deductions and tax.
The concept you created is based on "taxable income" meaning "assesable income - allowable deductions".

So it won't work.

Your strategy will work however, for FAMILY TAX BENEFIT purposes.
As per: https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/individuals/topics/sole-trader-or-partnership-income/28956#a1

What you can claim
You can claim:

costs needed to earn business income
depreciation of business assets
employee superannuation.
 

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yes but that test methodology is for other purposes. There are half a dozen income tests in a persons tax return for example, medicare levy and surcharge threshold, FTB A+B threshold, superannuation contributions caps calculation, small business entity eligibility and so on. It is not for JOBSEEKER purposes.

Plus the government has explicitly stated you can't receive both. It's one or the other. So if you have been receiving jobseeker up to May and opt out of it. You jobkeeper can only be backdated to the day it stopped as opposed to 30 Mar.

I don't know if you can choose to backdate it all the way and pay centrelink back the jobseeker you have received. although there is marginal gain in doing so.

jobseeker is administered by centrelink, paid in advance fortnightly based on projected income and adjusted at period end based actual income.

jobkeeper is a FLAT payment administered by the ATO, paid monthly in arrears.

They can have different cash flow and tax implications. Both payments are taxable and appear on your annual PAYG payment summary
 
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