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How would Uber know if pax had coronavirus or was suspect to have it? Pax don't have to disclose anything to Uber.
A public health (PH) entity can request a contact list surrounding an infected person. This what they do when trying to contain virus.
Example : person A goes to hospital sick. A discloses his contacts say office, house party and dentist. PH contacts all people and discovers source of A's virus was from office contact. PH then contacts all those people associated with the office person including rideshares if used. Because they know person was contagious, it's imperative everyone be contacted.

The big issue is that Uber deactivate rider accounts but has not contacted driver. If I was exposed I have the right to know and the privacy excuse is just a red herring
 

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Uber has no idea. Reasons:
  • They're not surveying drivers methodically
  • They're not surveying passengers methodically
  • Drivers may not volunteer that information if they test positive
  • Some drivers do not know they have it (no testing or asymptomatic)
  • Some drivers will get it but won't drive at all while sick so they would not be counted statistically
  • Patient privacy means they can't get it from another source
They'll probably know of a handful of cases if the cases are properly reported.
 

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Like it or not-- uber does not have the responsibility to track or report pax or driver infections.
  • A significant number of citizens have no symptoms, and assume they don't have it.
  • Those with symptoms may choose not to go in to be tested.
  • Many of those who do, are being refused testing, if symptoms are mild or moderate.
  • Neither driver nor pax will always tell uber they tested postive
  • Not uber's obligation to share this info
  • Because uber is waitlisting drivers who inform them of being sick, why would a driver do that? In these financially uncertain times, why would a driver want to burn a bridge?
The reality now is: simply leaving home, is at your own risk. You are on your own. No entity can make any guarantees about anything right now. Each person needs to assess the risks, and make his own decision. That's it.

There is some info on how it is believed the virus spreads. Still no certainly.

Bottom line is drivers and pax uber at their own risk.
 

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The HIPPA law throws a big fat monkey wrench into what can be disclosed.
HIPPA protects personal information only. You have right to know if "unnamed" person was in your car.

Like it or not-- uber does not have the responsibility to track or report pax or driver infections.
  • A significant number of citizens have no symptoms, and assume they don't have it.
  • Those with symptoms may choose not to go in to be tested.
  • Many of those who do, are being refused testing, if symptoms are mild or moderate.
  • Neither driver nor pax will always tell uber they tested postive
  • Not uber's obligation to share this info
  • Because uber is waitlisting drivers who inform them of being sick, why would a driver do that? In these financially uncertain times, why would a driver want to burn a bridge?
The reality now is: simply leaving home, is at your own risk. You are on your own. No entity can make any guarantees about anything right now. Each person needs to assess the risks, and make his own decision. That's it.

There is some info on how it is believed the virus spreads. Still no certainly.

Bottom line is drivers and pax uber at their own risk.
Uber deactivates pax when notified by public health - by virtue of that act Uber is aware of the potential danger to future drivers and future pax (Uber liability). They don't tell past drivers because they can use excuse that they didn't know and not liable.

Your arguments above are all valid - most notable the financial argument which unfortunately is often the most persuasive -
However, if the shuttle driver of a senior citizen day care center is exposed to a Covid positive person he helped on the shuttle, does he have the right to know that. Do the other riders have the right to know.
Again we all realize the reality of what is going on - that doesn't make it right and someone needs to call out Uber for this crap.
 

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So let's say you had back in January. You didn't know because at that time a lot of people didn't have a clue. So you got better. And now you're out driving. You have the antibodies what are you worried about?

Asking for a friend.
 
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