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This has all been covered before. I have read every word more than once. I don't understand why any Houston driver hasn't quite honestly.
 

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The problem is not all TNC drivers have the Houston permit & license like we do.

I appreciate the reminder Old Rocker.
Yes and I saw many picking up last night with only trade dress no sticker. But Uber knows who has the permit and license.

The SRF is just another part of Uber's cut. I'm pretty sure all the money goes in one pot so there's no reason to split it up other than to take a bigger share whilst pretending it doesn't affect the driver.
 

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Fuzzyelvis said:
The SRF is just another part of Uber's cut.
It is my understanding that the SRF is charged to the rider & shows on the driver's app so the fare looks the same on both apps. Then Uber removes it as a deduction for our liability insurance.

The SRF is pax fee becomes our deduction for taxes.
 

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Fuzzyelvis said:
Uber knows who has the permit and license.
Houston does not which is why we have so many drivers without them.

<EDIT>Houston knows only the drivers who have permits. They do not have a list of all Houston drivers, specifically those running around w/o permits. Only Uber knows how many drivers there are in Houston.
 

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Yes and I saw many picking up last night with only trade dress no sticker. But Uber knows who has the permit and license.

The SRF is just another part of Uber's cut. I'm pretty sure all the money goes in one pot so there's no reason to split it up other than to take a bigger share whilst pretending it doesn't affect the driver.
I've been trying to figure out what the SRF really is and how they can get away with increasing it 95%. It's a fixed fee that we can't prove is going toward "safety features in the app" and other "ride sharing operational expenses." Basically it's whatever the hell they want it to be on top of their commission of 20%-28%. It's so shady and unethical it makes me sick. I can no longer give my time to this greedy company.
 

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It is my understanding that the SRF is charged to the rider & shows on the driver's app so the fare looks the same on both apps. Then Uber removes it as a deduction for insurance.

The SRF is pax fee that becomes our deduction.
There's an article in the Chron from last April about the city giving Uber an ultimatum about cracking down on non-permitted drivers or be shut down. Part of the agreement allows city officials access to Uber's local offices for compliance monitoring.
 

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Fuzzyelvis "I've been trying to figure out what the SRF really is . . ."
SRF = Safe Rider Fee It is charged to each pax. Instead of Uber taking it out and pocketing the fee, Uber shows it on our fare total. Then they "deduct" something we never earned as "expenses." At tax time all the safe rider fees become a deduction for us. As another poster explained it:
"New min is $5.95. Driver actual min is $4. So commission comes from the $4. Most understand that.
When you get done with a ride Uber shows on you driver app the pax fare with fees and SRF. So that you and pax look the same on pricing and no issues.

There was a forum post explaining how on the dashboard it says under statements 2014 Tax Statement. Next year will say 2015. You open that up to get your true income. Since 1099 will say something different
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Houston does not which is why we have so many drivers without them.
Uber and Houston know who has the permit. Houston does not know who DOES NOT.

But my original statement was that UBER knows. UBER is charging the SRF, not Houston.

So what Houston knows is irrelevant in this discussion.

On a related note however, since it was brought up, there is a story in the Chronicle September 27 where the author states 8000 permits have been issued.

I have a subscription. Will try to copy it from online but it's pretty long.
 

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There's an article in the Chron from last April about the city giving Uber an ultimatum about cracking down on non-permitted drivers or be shut down. Part of the agreement allows city officials access to Uber's local offices for compliance monitoring.
Uber is fighting the city on all of this. They are refusing to tell Houston how many drivers there actually are.

I have seen more and more the last 2 weeks picking up without stickers.
 

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Fuzzyelvis "I've been trying to figure out what the SRF really is . . ."
SRF = Safe Rider Fee It is charged to each pax. Instead of Uber taking it out and pocketing the fee, Uber shows it on our fare total. Then they "deduct" something we never earned as "expenses." At tax time all the safe rider fees become a deduction for us. As another poster explained it:
"New min is $5.95. Driver actual min is $4. So commission comes from the $4. Most understand that.
When you get done with a ride Uber shows on you driver app the pax fare with fees and SRF. So that you and pax look the same on pricing and no issues.

There was a forum post explaining how on the dashboard it says under statements 2014 Tax Statement. Next year will say 2015. You open that up to get your true income. Since 1099 will say something different
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Ok you do know I've been around long enough to not need all thus explained? I know what Uber SAYS. I hope this was for someone else's benefit, not mine.
 

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Any document that starts multiple paragraphs with WHEREAS makes me giggle and then I stop reading by the time I reach the second Whereas
Well I'm English so I don't have that problem.

Methinks if you get a city license and permit to do something perhaps it would behoove you to read the ordinance that spells out the rules?
 

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Fuzzyelvis said:
Ok you do know I've been around long enough to not need all thus explained? I know what Uber SAYS. I hope this was for someone else's benefit, not mine.
Since you brought up the question, the answer was for anybody who did not know. :)
 
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