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High cancellation rate.. Warning of deactivation.

17K views 62 replies 19 participants last post by  IERide  
#1 ·
Hi guys, got a warning text from Uber regarding high cancellation rate.

"Uber: More than 10% of your accepted trips are cancelled after calling your rider impacting your cancellation rate. If your cancellation rate continues to exceed the city maximum of 10% your account could be deactivated. Reply STOP to opt out"

What do you guys usually sit at? Mine at 22%. uber said its maximum is 10%, which is bs, as I been sitting around 16% for a few weeks now and never received such msg.

If pax cancelled the trip, I presume it won't affect my cancellation rate yes? How do you guys kept it to min?
 
#7 ·
Yep I understand that rider no show after 5 mins wont affect cancellation rate.....but in terms of "acceptance rates" and "cancellation rate" I thought these were a week by week thing rather than a cumulative thing...ie resets each new week?
Its interesting to know that 10% is the bar...I average 70 trips/week and 3 cancellations or 4%, and these are also because have used up destination filter.
Suggest don't sweat it.

PS if cancelling late at night best practice is to call the pax and ask where they are going and to let them know u are cancelling so they are not stranded and likely to complain.
 
#11 ·
I’m at 22%.

If PAX cancels on you, it doesn’t not have an effect.

I use plenty of tactical cancellations and I NEVER cancel unless I make $6.40.

If you want to cancel because of pick up location or inconvenient time to drive to pick them up, better to ring the pax and tell them you’ll be 45 minutes as you are in an (example: I’m in Rockingham – you’re actually in Perth). They’ll question it, say the app is glitching, but just insist, you are on the way and please don’t cancel as you want to come. They will then cancel and use the ETA excuse rather than driver asked me to cancel.

I’ve had plenty of warnings but never the one you received. It tells me that if I’m not ready to drive not to be online or something… So I’m guessing your just cold cancelling inconvenient trips?

FYI: Acceptance rate does not impact your Uber standing. My accepting rate is at about 45% - I don't accept jobs more than 6 mins away unless surge.
 
#12 ·
If you want to cancel because of pick up location or inconvenient time to drive to pick them up, better to ring the pax and tell them you'll be 45 minutes as you are in an (example: I'm in Rockingham - you're actually in Perth). They'll question it, say the app is glitching, but just insist, you are on the way and please don't cancel as you want to come. They will then cancel and use the ETA excuse rather than driver asked me to cancel.
Oddly enough, Uber can deactivate you for fraudulent behaviour.
 
#35 ·
Just ignore acceptance rate. Mine is sometimes as low as 30%, but since we are technically "independent contractors" there is nothing they can do about it. Cancellation rate is a different story. I try to keep it below 15% by only cancelling no-shows, which is why I'm extremely picky with which rides I accept. Inconvenient pickup location? Let the ping time out. Too far away? Let the ping time out. Rating below 4.65? Let the ping time out. You may cop a two minute ban for not accepting three rides in a row, but I reckon it's better than being deactivated for a 40% cancellation rate.

That said, I think it's ridiculous that rider no-shows count against our cancellation percentage.
 
#40 ·
I usually get 2 to 4 trips per destination set

So that's 4 to 8 trips a day...

Makes a big difference to my cancel rate when those trips are not in the calculation
Huh? It only let you match two trip per day anyway. Once accepted and trip completed, that'a one trip used. It doesn't keep matching if you used up your quota of two even it shows to your destination no? So what are your talking about?
 
#42 ·
You sure? But many times I get matched southward city to south Perth, then south Perth back to subiaco (that's not southward), and I'm using my last trip quota too. So you're saying uber will keep matching my trip as long I have the destination set? So why bother with quota of two then? I'm confused here... I thought they only match twice per day and that's it?
 
#44 ·
And one thing to remember is that the "day" resets at midnight, pretty dumb really/can be a trap if not careful and working late Friday as erodes the # of DF's for Saturday
Not sure it times out and I have fed back to Foober that 2 is insufficient esp if one mistakenly goes offline as I my fat fingers occasionally do in error.

PSS notice the new Perth policy of 10% cancellation rate is now formal. LOL to see how the serial pests will operate now.
 
#45 ·
In terms of what DOESNT count towards the cancellation rate, I just received a response from Foober that confirmed that rider no shows, wrong destinations, impossible to finish trips and others where the driver had no control of the situation are "filtered out" (uber speak for excluded)
I suspected that was the case but wanted clarification even though I am well under the limit and to allay the concerns of other drivers on this forum.
Lastly to quote the response from Uber "this is not a new policy but communication to ensure drivers are not abusing the platform-especially drivers calling and cancelling after asking for the riders destination"
Bugger I forgot to ask if the "C" rate is a weekly rate or cumulative-does anyone know for certain?
 
#49 ·
WTF is going on with the cancellation rate as rider no shows are NOT supposed to count but they have been as of last week.
My rate was nil at start of last week, cancelled one and went to 2% then had 3 rider no shows and it escalated to 10%...multiple emails to uber via app asking for clarification and how the heck it is calcd but no response.
Me thinks Uber have lost the plot re the cancellation rate...or are deliberately "inflating" the rate to stomp on bad behaviours but innocent folks (me) are potentially affected.
Anyone else copping a higher than normal cancellation rate ? (noting 10% is the new deactivation point)
 
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#54 · (Edited)
Sydney Uber office presentation.
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Thank you Grand ;)

5 Star trips - a few things to avoid.
So, it is lumped in with 'asking for 5 stars'
They may as well include 'farting whilst a rider is in the car'.

I don't mean to be precious, but it is hardly a rule, or even a recommendation.
It is a '5 star suggestion'.

I think we have been unconsciously dudding ourselves.