$1.00 a mile minimum. Nationwide. If you can't offer that, go eat a ...
grYFT's desperate plea made me tear up....
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This is local for me. I wonder how long I could state my case for. Go pro Uber and Lyft and use my mike time to rail on both companies and their Ponzi schemes and multi lvl marking schemes. Or how both companies operate modern day indentured servitude contracts on gullible people. While exploiting freshly minted immigrants.
Cali min wag is $12 per hour. In my market i can average 3 fares per hour. Miles agerage around 30 per hour. Best case senario for CA is $12 plus $16 vehicle expence allowance.
Straw-man argument much? None of us living in California are clamoring for this. What we are interested in is being true contractors and not being in this grey area where we're kind of treated like employees while carrying the IC label.Great you Californians will love this. You would be making less through reduced hours, and will be told when and where to work. No more switching to the other app. As employees you'd get fired for under performing. If you hustle, there'd be no extra reward. Drivers who use rideshare as a temp job will be left out. If you really wanted to work an hourly job, probably should have not signed on to a contractor position.
Most also interested in seeing both companies go up in flames at this point.
Anything lyft recommends is not in your best interest.
You really shouldn't preach for all Californians, you immediately destroy your own argument when you do...Straw-man argument much? None of us living in California are clamoring for this. What we are interested in is being true contractors and not being in this grey area where we're kind of treated like employees while carrying the IC label.
Most also interested in seeing both companies go up in flames at this point.
What are you talking about? I'm clearly talking about those of us who reside in places like the SF forum.You really shouldn't preach for all Californians, you immediately destroy your own argument when you do...
"None of us living in California"What are you talking about? I'm clearly talking about those of us who reside in places like the SF forum.
You can talk about your own views all you want but once you start to claim that you are talking about other people's views you get on their bad side as soon as they differ from yours even ever so slightly.
Ok Lyft sends out an email basicaly warning "drivers should speak up if you don't want to become hourly employees"Straw-man argument much? None of us living in California are clamoring for this. What we are interested in is being true contractors and not being in this grey area where we're kind of treated like employees while carrying the IC label.
Most also interested in seeing both companies go up in flames at this point.
Overwelmimg responce on this thread is basicly "@#$% you Lyft."
Have no worries, Lyft will do what it takes for their end. You guys are going to get the short end of the stick. After all you haven't noticed that everytime U/L change something, things get worse?
$2 minimum. Now THAT'S a plea I can get behind.$1.00 a mile minimum. Nationwide. If you can't offer that, go eat a [email protected]
Then wake up and *gasp* take the little hint Lyft sent in that "pathetic" email, and let California know!!!What we are interested in is being true contractors
The email said to express it in your own way after all.
If the judge in california makes the case for us to be considered employees it has implications for all of us because now there is legal precedent. The other thing is that it will only make things better for them in the ivory towers not us out in the trenches pay rates should be better I agree 100% but IC status is better for us as a whole we need things like full destination info and estimated fare so that we as ICs can make an informed decision when you're subbing work though not every job is a winner I speak from experience outside of rideshare but as long as you can keep the doors open it's ok if you're generally profitable
So this is going to become a job with schedule...so some will make more money, but others will be out of the job. Nice. What everyone here fails to understand is that there is finite amount of money to go around. So right now if all they got is $100, and there is 100 drivers, everyone gets a $1... and everyone complains cuz it;s not enough... what will happen is, they will only allow 10 drivers to be online, so 10 will make $10, but guess what, other 90 will make 0. So to all these who want more, I hope you will be the ones of the 90 left with 0. At least now you all got opportunity to make something, when more regulation comes, only few will make more... and yes, I know all of you think you will be those lucky 10 making more, but guess what, only 10 of you can be 10, not all 100.... so good luck to all you 90 who will make 0.
If this is the case, that lawmakers are listening to grievances and experiences now, perhaps this is the chance to write a strong letter and send it directly to your representative.______________________
Correction - just checked and I got it at 9:18 am. They are asking for stories to forward to lawmakers and also have a link for the driver to contact their lawmaker independently. Now the campaign on the radio stations make sense. The D.J. ask for listeners to post their positive experiences with Uber and they will be read on the air.
Look at it like a strike but expressing your opinions on paper.
Do SOMETHING if you care about your income opportunity.
Yes U/L has been super shady but things are coming to head now.
Send your grievances and concerns to your rep right away.
Make it short and to the point .
Use bullet points.
Leave your contact info .
The main point is CA loves unions. If we can get collective bargaining we can make real change in rates, deactivation recourse, safety, etc.
That last Strike was a warmup.
Lets have another, and another,
That last Strike was a warmup.
Lets have another, and another,
I don't know about you but I'm interested in making more than $1...So this is going to become a job with schedule...so some will make more money, but others will be out of the job. Nice. What everyone here fails to understand is that there is finite amount of money to go around. So right now if all they got is $100, and there is 100 drivers, everyone gets a $1... and everyone complains cuz it;s not enough... what will happen is, they will only allow 10 drivers to be online, so 10 will make $10, but guess what, other 90 will make 0. So to all these who want more, I hope you will be the ones of the 90 left with 0. At least now you all got opportunity to make something, when more regulation comes, only few will make more... and yes, I know all of you think you will be those lucky 10 making more, but guess what, only 10 of you can be 10, not all 100.... so good luck to all you 90 who will make 0.
Uber will quite happily give you a script.f ....l/u both
is there any positive
Everyone is... but how do you now it will be you who will make more than $1, and not me, or the another driver you just passed today. Today everyone has equal opportunity to make money, some will make more and some will make less. If the regulations force the company to do something, they will do it, but that will come at some other cost... and that's what no one is focusing on. There is only so much money to go around, if they are forced to pay someone more that means someone else will be out of a job... and how do you know you will be at the money receiving end and not at the out of the job end?I don't know about you but I'm interested in making more than $1...
No. You said right now everyone has the equal opportunity to make 1 measly dollar. That's not making money, it's just driving for charity.Everyone is... but how do you now it will be you who will make more than $1, and not me, or the another driver you just passed today. Today everyone has equal opportunity to make money, some will make more and some will make less. If the regulations force the company to do something, they will do it, but that will come at some other cost... and that's what no one is focusing on. There is only so much money to go around, if they are forced to pay someone more that means someone else will be out of a job... and how do you know you will be at the money receiving end and not at the out of the job end?
Well if that's the case, why not just stop driving now and let others make money who feel this is worthwhile for them.... at least now you have choice to do so... once regulations come about, the choice will be made for you.No. You said right now everyone has the equal opportunity to make 1 measly dollar. That's not making money, it's just driving for charity.
Right now when it is slow I chose not to drive. Once regulations kick in you won't have that choice... select few ill make $10, other will be told to look elsewhere... I rather make that choice myself than have that choice forced upon me.
What I'm getting at, everyone thinks with regulations everyone will make good money... I guarantee you that will not be the case. Only selected few will... the rest will have nothing.... If you rather have nothing then stop driving now. I rather have measly dollar than nothing.... because odds that you will be one who will get more money are slim. If you think you will be the one making all the money then please tell me why you think it will be you and not any of the other 1000s of other drivers.
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