They can both go to hell.
grYFT's desperate plea made me tear up....
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I'm not sure my comments would help
They're trying to convince us that any improvement in pay and working conditions will require us to become employees. That's complete BS. If they treated the drivers well all along, they wouldn't be in this position as the lawmakers would leave them alone.
How about they increase our rates, and give us COMPLETE destination information including estimated fare prior to us accepting the ride? If they do, we'd be happy to tell the lawmakers to back off.
How about they increase our rates, and give us COMPLETE destination information including estimated fare prior to us accepting the ride? If they do, we'd be happy to tell the lawmakers to back off.
Right? they can't spare a breath to advocate for drivers, but want us to advocate for them? um, yeah, no. deal with it, lyft.
When did this happen? I have heard nothing about this until this post.
No one actually cares about what we think. A broad set of regulations will be set up and then they will move on to the next issue.
Most important to me is a fair procedure for grievances, operated by a third party. These random permanent deactiviations for no obvious reason are unacceptable.
Running their businesses inefficiently while they rob the drivers and then crying how they are losing money -- unacceptable.
I will say this -- In May, I tracked my trips and Lyft's cut from my earning has dropped from 50% to about 34% but I also stopped renting a Lyft car.
It's an email I got this morning. Sounds like they're concerned that such a bill would drive them out of business. Fine by me.When did this happen? I have heard nothing about this until this post.
No one actually cares about what we think. A broad set of regulations will be set up and then they will move on to the next issue.
Most important to me is a fair procedure for grievances, operated by a third party. These random permanent deactiviations for no obvious reason are unacceptable.
Running their businesses inefficiently while they rob the drivers and then crying how they are losing money -- unacceptable.
I will say this -- In May, I tracked my trips and Lyft's cut from my earning has dropped from 50% to about 34% but I also stopped renting a Lyft car.
Is this just going to California drivers?It's an email I got this morning. Sounds like they're concerned that such a bill would drive them out of business. Fine by me.
I tell you if it's going to non-Californian drivers it might actually be a criminal offense to knowingly be soliciting non-citizens of the State to lobby lawmakers. Only California citizens are allowed input on laws that govern them.Is this just going to California drivers?
Im in L.A. and have not received anything like this.
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Well, this article is big news. I find it interesting that U/L would only spent $7 per person on training.
All those figures and estimates are for full time employees, assuming 40 hours, for drivers, is that 40 hours logged on or pax in the car ? Will U/L try to set up work schedules?
As with the grocery store industry, management schedules everyone under 40 hours so they are classified as part time and receive no benefits.
Lots of questions and few answers.
It's an email I got this morning. Sounds like they're concerned that such a bill would drive them out of business. Fine by me.
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Have to read it several times. The implications are very subtle.
We drivers value the flexibility of the work schedule. They are implying that will be taken away, when that issue has not been established yet. Frankly, I do not see most drivers as qualifying as full time employees. Does full time mean 40 hours of Logged On --- OR --- 40 hours pax related (a) receiving a call (b) driving to pickup (c) trip? Going to be a long week if the latter.
This could get interesting !! Who said the strikes did no good ????
-----------------Is this just going to California drivers?
This particular article is talking about California Legislation, so yes.
Don't forget to tell them to get rid of the ratings system.They're trying to convince us that any improvement in pay and working conditions will require us to become employees. That's complete BS. If they treated the drivers well all along, they wouldn't be in this position as the lawmakers would leave them alone.
How about they increase our rates, and give us COMPLETE destination information including estimated fare prior to us accepting the ride? If they do, we'd be happy to tell the lawmakers to back off.
I have seen a lot of millennial derived crap from Lyft and Uber but I think this one really does take the cake. Are they that dillusional to post this? With that said, it seems there are ants who drive for non-surge rates so that may be the answer. Come on people, wake up. This plea from Lyft is wrong on so many levels and shows the lengths they will go to in order to stop you from making fair and equitable earnings.
Please, educate us with this supposed law Uber troll.I tell you if it's going to non-Californian drivers it might actually be a criminal offense to knowingly be soliciting non-citizens of the State to lobby lawmakers. Only California citizens are allowed input on laws that govern them.
And while it is California Legislation, it does provide a platform from which other states can start proceeding with their own regulations. Eventually, with the gig economy companies skirting so many laws/regulations, I forese federal laws having to be addressed that specifically protect workers from these predatory companies.Im in L.A. and have not received anything like this.
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Well, this article is big news. I find it interesting that U/L would only spent $7 per person on training.
All those figures and estimates are for full time employees, assuming 40 hours, for drivers, is that 40 hours logged on or pax in the car ? Will U/L try to set up work schedules?
As with the grocery store industry, management schedules everyone under 40 hours so they are classified as part time and receive no benefits.
Lots of questions and few answers.
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Are you in Calif, too ?
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Have to read it several times. The implications are very subtle.
We drivers value the flexibility of the work schedule. They are implying that will be taken away, when that issue has not been established yet. Frankly, I do not see most drivers as qualifying as full time employees. Does full time mean 40 hours of Logged On --- OR --- 40 hours pax related (a) receiving a call (b) driving to pickup (c) trip? Going to be a long week if the latter.
This could get interesting !! Who said the strikes did no good ????
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This particular article is talking about California Legislation, so yes.
Troll calling people trolls. Go figure.I have seen a lot of millennial derived crap from Lyft and Uber but I think this one really does take the cake. Are they that dillusional to post this? With that said, it seems there are ants who drive for non-surge rates so that may be the answer. Come on people, wake up. This plea from Lyft is wrong on so many levels and shows the lengths they will go to in order to stop you from making fair and equitable earnings.
Please, educate us with this supposed law Uber troll.
And while it is California Legislation, it does provide a platform from which other states can start proceeding with their own regulations. Eventually, with the gig economy companies skirting so many laws/regulations, I forese federal laws having to be addressed that specifically protect workers from these predatory companies.
And maybe stop micro management and fascist mind games with independent contractors?! LolThey're trying to convince us that any improvement in pay and working conditions will require us to become employees. That's complete BS. If they treated the drivers well all along, they wouldn't be in this position as the lawmakers would leave them alone.
How about they increase our rates, and give us COMPLETE destination information including estimated fare prior to us accepting the ride? If they do, we'd be happy to tell the lawmakers to back off.
The new bonus is legit going to trigger ALOTTTTT of drivers gambling tendencies.
The whole penny a second is programming drivers brains.
It's legit tactics Hitler used to get people behind him.
It’s Uber and lyft fault for bring rates so low that people begin to notice...
______________________When did this happen? I have heard nothing about this until this post.
No one actually cares about what we think. A broad set of regulations will be set up and then they will move on to the next issue.
Most important to me is a fair procedure for grievances, operated by a third party. These random permanent deactiviations for no obvious reason are unacceptable.
Running their businesses inefficiently while they rob the drivers and then crying how they are losing money -- unacceptable.
I will say this -- In May, I tracked my trips and Lyft's cut from my earning has dropped from 50% to about 34% but I also stopped renting a Lyft car.
Correction - just checked and I got it at 9:18 am. They are asking for stories to forward to lawmakers and also have a link for the driver to contact their lawmaker independently. Now the campaign on the radio stations make sense. The D.J. ask for listeners to post their positive experiences with Uber and they will be read on the air.
f ....l/u both
is there any positive______________________
Correction - just checked and I got it at 9:18 am. They are asking for stories to forward to lawmakers and also have a link for the driver to contact their lawmaker independently. Now the campaign on the radio stations make sense. The D.J. ask for listeners to post their positive experiences with Uber and they will be read on the air.
Great you Californians will love this. You would be making less through reduced hours, and will be told when and where to work. No more switching to the other app. As employees you'd get fired for under performing. If you hustle, there'd be no extra reward. Drivers who use rideshare as a temp job will be left out. If you really wanted to work an hourly job, probably should have not signed on to a contractor position.
Don’t fall for it. Anything U/L is against is for their benefit, not ours. Don’t sign it!
Maybe we should be fighting harder to be treated like actual independent contractors. To make an informed decision like a true independent contractor, there needs to be transparency. We should know the upfront pay for each ride plus the destination BEFORE we accept a ride. They should not be allowed to automatically add riders that we did not accept and switch riders mid ride (gryft does both these things). There are so many more examples on how we don’t have the benefit of being an independent contractor.
They have all the control. I believe that If we could cherry pick the rides that work for us, it would increase the fares for all those long pickups. The minimum fares would increase. How about riders putting a tip in app prior to pick up? Those rides would be more desirable and would skirt the surge fares of which U/L keeps a large portion of.
Maybe we should be fighting harder to be treated like actual independent contractors. To make an informed decision like a true independent contractor, there needs to be transparency. We should know the upfront pay for each ride plus the destination BEFORE we accept a ride. They should not be allowed to automatically add riders that we did not accept and switch riders mid ride (gryft does both these things). There are so many more examples on how we don’t have the benefit of being an independent contractor.
They have all the control. I believe that If we could cherry pick the rides that work for us, it would increase the fares for all those long pickups. The minimum fares would increase. How about riders putting a tip in app prior to pick up? Those rides would be more desirable and would skirt the surge fares of which U/L keeps a large portion of.
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