[Emptynesst]

Let's use last night as an example - I have a passenger in the car, paying attention to the road during the rain on a busy street...and I get an offer while car is in motion. I rather use my attention to drive. The Para app pops up a notification, tells me the pay per mile, then I can go back to Uber and accept or ignore the request. I rather do this than try to run numbers while driving. And I'm good with numbers but still prefer this method.

Hit last ride button after accepting a ride , turn back on when arriving at your destination , while you are driving , they will try to bombard you with nonsense rides that are not profitable.🤷‍♂️

 

[Palermoguy]

It all boils down to the fact that every time you accept a low paying ride YOU have just defined that level of pay as acceptable. Don’t complain the next time you get a crappy offer because YOU told them it was OK when YOU ACCEPTED the last one.
Every driver that accepts a low paying ride is screwing all drivers.

But somebody will accept that ride no matter what so the mission isn't getting accomplished using your method. We need to get to get together and stop accepting calls for one day. For example, everyone meets at O'Hare and we close the lot up and nobody gets outs and no calls are being accepted and that should wake up the big giant. Or is that a bad idea?

 

[SinTaxERROR]

I wish they did DoorDash also.

Door Dash is simple math… the only thing with DD is whether you calculate pay per mile from point of ping to customer or restaurant location to customer.

 

[Atavar]

But somebody will accept that ride no matter what so the mission isn't getting accomplished using your method. We need to get to get together and stop accepting calls for one day. For example, everyone meets at O'Hare and we close the lot up and nobody gets outs and no calls are being accepted and that should wake up the big giant. Or is that a bad idea?

One day isn’t going to make a difference. We need something we can do every day all day.
If drivers get together and just stop accepting unprofitable rides eventually the ants will get discouraged with the leftovers.
Drivers who do not accept unprofitable rides will be available and will get more of the profitable rides that are left.
You really don’t want the unprofitable rides anyway.

 

[UberBastid]

AR means nothing. In my major metro market I made $207 this morning in 5 hours........8 trips to complete a low paying $25 quest that I would have done anyways.

Ignore crap offers.

My AR is 41% right now and it has no had impact on my earnings in years.

Crap trips are what newbies are for.

And the newbies and the shills are here to tell you that you are wrong.

Like crickets chirping ... hear em?

 

[UberBastid]

One day isn’t going to make a difference. We need something we can do every day all day.
If drivers get together and just stop accepting unprofitable rides eventually the ants will get discouraged with the leftovers.
Drivers who do not accept unprofitable rides will be available and will get more of the profitable rides that are left.
You really don’t want the unprofitable rides anyway.

Ya know .. I don't even think it requires 'getting together'.
It is in MY own self-interest to not work for less than zero.
Seems obvious doesn't it?
Common sense isn't very common any more.

 

[Atavar]

Ya know .. I don't even think it requires 'getting together'.
It is in MY own self-interest to not work for less than zero.
Seems obvious doesn't it?
Common sense isn't very common any more.

Agreed.
The thing people forget is that the gigs are capitalist companies (not a bad thing) and the publicly traded companies hav a board of directors to answer to. The board has shareholders to answer to. Their job is to get as much as they can for as little as they can and sell it for as much as they can. They don’t have the freedom to be generous or even fair.
To pay as little as they can the companies will offer less and less to drivers until the drivers stop accepting their offers. When that happens this will become the lowest acceptable offer and that’s all the drivers will get.
The companies are not concerned about driver churn. There are enough people that want to drive that even if half of the drivers quit every week they would just onboard new ants to replace them.
The only hope we have is that enough drivers start declining the low offers that the ‘lowest acceptable offer’ gets larger.
Ignore the streaks and levels. Those are just psych to get drivers to feel forced to accept unprofitable offers.

 

[Philly heretic]

I do exactly that - I use the Para app to see pay per mile - I accept at $1/mile or more. Sometimes if the pickup makes sense, I'll go as low as $0.85ish but even then it's low. Is there a better app than Para to help calculate this?

what about the miles dead heading back to restage... or the miles to get to the pickup location?

 

[Atavar]

I've been with Lyft & Uber for almost 8 years so why do I have to quit just because some new CEO is a scumbag?!

You don’t. You are perfectly free to continue working for someone you hate.
Something about throwing good after bad….

 

[UberBastid]

To pay as little as they can the companies will offer less and less to drivers until the drivers stop accepting their offers. When that happens this will become the lowest acceptable offer and that’s all the drivers will get.

And, further ... I see Uber drivers acting JUST like the pax's they disdain for not tipping and offering losing rides.
They act just like Uber's board and buy their labor and commodities at the lowest price.
They'll go to a car dealership and grind and grind down to the last nickle. They'll walk from a deal for $20. They don't care that the salesman is starving, holes in the bottom of his shoes, eating Ramen for dinner.
Everybody wants 'the best deal'. That means you're shopping to get what you want for the least amount of money.

It's the same things that Uber does.
It's the same things that the Pax's do.
And, it's the same things that the driver does.

 

[Mad_Jack_Flint]

Wait - the less we accept, the lower paying rides we get? Is that true? I thought only cancellation rate is what matters. Or no one knows for sure?

Your acceptance rate does not matter and it is the cancellation rate.

I have had my acceptance rate in the teens and still got Airport Rides that paid over a hundred dollars for eighty miles.

 

[UltraVolatileUberDriver]

So do something. Stop taking offers under $2.5/mile.

be careful, Uber is warning everyone about lowering their cancellation rates, via blast email! Don't cancel the $2.50 trip or else! Now go tank up $45 in fuel and keep working, fool! SMH

 

[UltraVolatileUberDriver]

Your first mistake was sitting at Ohare waiting for the ride in the first place. The second was accepting a 40 mile trip paying $17.

I’m sure you would have been all over this one. Just because it pays $48
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insane that this isn't actually 82.6 miles, but double, at 164 miles for $48. Unreal, how they rip us off

 

[UberBastid]

be careful, Uber is warning everyone about lowering their cancellation rates, via blast email! Don't cancel the $2.50 trip or else! Now go tank up $45 in fuel and keep working, fool! SMH

They have NOW enough drivers to last them for months.
If they get rid of half of you, it'll be about right.
Why not skim the cream, and keep the people that DO THE JOB?

Isn't that what you would do, if you were Mr. Uber?

PS: Ya'll think this is gonna get better?
Wait about six months when all the layoffs happen, unemployment doubles - and they have even MORE to choose from.
I've been sounding the alarm on this forum that this would happen for the last year. I told ya'll what was coming, and made suggestions on what to do to prepare. For that, I was chided and ridiculed ... NOW Uber has told you what time it is. Believe it now?

 

[UltraVolatileUberDriver]

They have NOW enough drivers to last them for months.
If they get rid of half of you, it'll be about right.
Why not skim the cream, and keep the people that DO THE JOB?

Isn't that what you would do, if you were Mr. Uber?

PS: Ya'll think this is gonna get better?
Wait about six months when all the layoffs happen, unemployment doubles - and they have even MORE to choose from.
I've been sounding the alarm on this forum that this would happen for the last year. I told ya'll what was coming, and made suggestions on what to do to prepare. For that, I was chided and ridiculed ... NOW Uber has told you what time it is. Believe it now?

They have no interest in skimming the cream because all of us rats, working on their network generate money for their company. They don't want to cut anybody in reality, I don't believe. Maybe only the absolute worst offenders who have 50% cancellations lol

 

[Sonoran Uber]

what about the miles dead heading back to restage... or the miles to get to the pickup location?

PARALYZED...

 

[TradeUp]

Not only is Lyft and Uber ripping us off they gotta make us chase the little cheap ass surge they put out there and then as you get closer to it they take it away. I took this lady from O'Hare to Harvey and they charged her $97 bucks and they gave me $17. Are we going to do something about this or we just going to be a bunch of suckers!?

Draw a line. Mine is accept nothing below $2/mile because it is still feasible to keep me moving and earning. Some might say $1.50/mile, but if you're accepting anything under $1/mile, you're heading for major troubled times and desperation has taken over.

We all know striking doesn't work, because as soon as surge arrives, all plans of 'resisting' go out the window. A step further would be writing representatives, gathering a movement beyond just you (maybe via a local forum, mine is NEXTDOOR), and try expressing concerns via social media that can attract attention.

 

[taoufikm]

Yeah everyone did. We found other jobs...

maybe we should all stop working for Uber for a week

 

[SgtAnt]

Your first mistake was sitting at Ohare waiting for the ride in the first place. The second was accepting a 40 mile trip paying $17.

I’m sure you would have been all over this one. Just because it pays $48
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Exactly smh. Some drivers make it worse accepting shitty rides. You are lucky if you make it to your destination. Passengers are knocking off drivers.