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Passed the fourth month without FB and the liberation is intoxicating. No longer being manipulated by the FB algorithms has given me some insights about how social media has poisoned the political and social landscape.

Unless you step back from the insidious manipulation its' difficult to know how determining these companies have become. FB has recently said it has taken down Russians trolls trying to influence the upcoming mid term elections in the U.S., a bit late in the day to suddenly become the hero.

Facebook stock has also taken a wallop in the last several weeks and I have no doubt that in light of the way it was used to manipulate voters in the U.S. many have either curbed their FB habit or totally stepped back. My children were the first to abandon it several years ago, when it first came out they totally embraced it. Now it is cool not to be on FB, not that I am cool but it is interesting to observe trends in digital media. Young people have become wise in their old age.

McLuhan's aphorism that "The Medium is the Message" is more relevant than ever before. We can't control the medium but we can avoid it as much as possible. I think it is even more important to support certain portions of the new media landscape with sites like Truthdig, Democracy Now, Tom's Dispatch, etc.

The movement to abandon certain social media or at least to try and not let it control us is socially important. Corporatism has destroyed and crept into every aspect of our digital lives. Purging the greed and corruption of these companies will not be an easy task.

Facebook Makes You Fat.
 

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Welcome to the club, Comrade. I permanently deleted my Facebook account a few months ago and it feels so liberating to be able to tell Mr. Zuckerburg to take his website and shove it up his .....,,
New user growth has stalled and many user's have curbed their time on the platform. Short sellers might have some more money to make yet. The trolls had so over taken the platform I think FB may have to serious rethink the entire platform. The way it is now is no longer socially acceptable.
 

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The best part of Facebook is following Zuckerberg and listening to his ramblings about the future of Facebook and also watching him struggle to appear normal.

Did you know he has a closet full of just grey sweatshirts? He’s just like us!

Also he has plans to save Africa by bringing them Facebook. I’m not sure how sharing live videos of housewives applying makeup and scam pearl parties is going to help but he’s a genius so I believe him.
 

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The best part of Facebook is following Zuckerberg and listening to his ramblings about the future of Facebook and also watching him struggle to appear normal.

Did you know he has a closet full of just grey sweatshirts? He's just like us!

Also he has plans to save Africa by bringing them Facebook. I'm not sure how sharing live videos of housewives applying makeup and scam pearl parties is going to help but he's a genius so I believe him.
He's a quiet stable genius. "The man in the grey sweatshirt". Thanks for the factual tidbit.
 

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I never found value in it. I just call people I need to talk to. I think UP is much better social medium than FB lol.
Because of Lolinator ;););)

I don't understand the uproar against Facebook. Do you think they are the only ones that are collecting information regarding your viewing habits? All of the site that you view on a regular basis are collecting cookies and are using it to procure advertisement. Facebook were the only major company to get caught but, best beleive, everyone is doing it.

Not related, however, Instagram does a better job of doing everything that Facebook intends to do but with a cleaner interface. and that has more to do with drop in Facebook users than their scandal.
 

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Facebook, Pinterest, Instagram, all of them are timesucking wastelands.

You ever dream of Facebook? No.. and when you’re on your deathbed you won’t remember spending half of your free time on there either.. but what people don’t notice is all the time they spend on the internet is time they miss with their loved ones.

It’s worse than TV ever was IMO
 

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Instagram does a better job of doing everything that Facebook intends to do but with a cleaner interface. and that has more to do with drop in Facebook users than their scandal.
100% Agreed. (Note: Facebook owns Instagram).

I still use Facebook, although I have my doubts that anything I have read there has made me vote one way or another (I tend to be a fairly high-information voter, and I'm leery of echo-chambers and group-think mentalities). Facebook is mainly useful for me to keep track of all the cinema events going on in Toronto, as I get event-updates from all the repertory houses, and it lets me click 'interested' to remind me of one-off screenings. My parents remain active on the platform (but do not use Instagram), so getting pictures from them is of value to me, as they live 3000km away. I try to stay away from politics and culture war stuff on social media, it is so black&white and toxic, Twitter is the worst.

It's worse than TV ever was IMO
Television is/was pretty bad. I 'fill in the cracks' with social media. Channel flipping on the couch is far worse in my opinion. I've got no issues with binge-watching/streaming specific shows, that is how I consume 'TV' media, but the 999 channel wasteland out there is pretty soul sucking.
 

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Facebook, Pinterest, Instagram, all of them are timesucking wastelands.

You ever dream of Facebook? No.. and when you're on your deathbed you won't remember spending half of your free time on there either.. but what people don't notice is all the time they spend on the internet is time they miss with their loved ones.

It's worse than TV ever was IMO
My goodness, "You ever dream of FaceBook?" I can't stop laughing. Well done. Let's make that a meme it it isn't already.
 

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Because of Lolinator ;););)

I don't understand the uproar against Facebook. Do you think they are the only ones that are collecting information regarding your viewing habits? All of the site that you view on a regular basis are collecting cookies and are using it to procure advertisement. Facebook were the only major company to get caught but, best beleive, everyone is doing it.

Not related, however, Instagram does a better job of doing everything that Facebook intends to do but with a cleaner interface. and that has more to do with drop in Facebook users than their scandal.
Yeah same goes for others. I don't use any (with exception of UP, good to pass the time sometimes, and deciphering Lolinator 's post is good mind exercise :) ). I get that everyone collects on what you are doing because I see target ads all the time. That's why I don't put my life on FB or IG. Just don't see the point.
 

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Yeah same goes for others. I don't use any (with exception of UP, good to pass the time sometimes, and deciphering Lolinator 's post is good mind exercise :) ). I get that everyone collects on what you are doing because I see target ads all the time. That's why I don't put my life on FB or IG. Just don't see the point.
Cheap networking

Mostly black hole of time

To keep ppl from growing and changing works
 

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100% Agreed. (Note: Facebook owns Instagram).

I still use Facebook, although I have my doubts that anything I have read there has made me vote one way or another (I tend to be a fairly high-information voter, and I'm leery of echo-chambers and group-think mentalities). Facebook is mainly useful for me to keep track of all the cinema events going on in Toronto, as I get event-updates from all the repertory houses, and it lets me click 'interested' to remind me of one-off screenings. My parents remain active on the platform (but do not use Instagram), so getting pictures from them is of value to me, as they live 3000km away. I try to stay away from politics and culture war stuff on social media, it is so black&white and toxic, Twitter is the worst.

Television is/was pretty bad. I 'fill in the cracks' with social media. Channel flipping on the couch is far worse in my opinion. I've got no issues with binge-watching/streaming specific shows, that is how I consume 'TV' media, but the 999 channel wasteland out there is pretty soul sucking.
That is great that you can manage the toxicity of FB, I just got tired of the trolls and adverts. I still am upset that the Russians probably know more about me than FB does. The biggest Troll out there is Putin and the next most irritating Troll is Trump.
 

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I stopped using FB 6-7 years ago. It's just a site for personal gossip.

I wish I could get rid of Google as well but it's so damn useful it's hard to cut it off.

I did use Twitter but have cut WAY back in the last couple months.

I don't like being tracked and monitored and having suggested options for purchasing items.

If I say in a Whattsap message that I haven't eaten a pizza in four months, I don't want to start recieving pizza ads.

You hear me Whattsapp? You're next!
 

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I never found value in it. I just call people I need to talk to. I think UP is much better social medium than FB lol.
I have learned more on UP than just about any site of the web. Facebook is a big pusher for the fossil fuel industry as is You Tube. The first ban should be directed at FB for all the automobile advertising they do.

I stopped using FB 6-7 years ago. It's just a site for personal gossip.

I wish I could get rid of Google as well but it's so damn useful it's hard to cut it off.

I did use Twitter but have cut WAY back in the last couple months.

I don't like being tracked and monitored and having suggested options for purchasing items.

If I say in a Whattsap message that I haven't eaten a pizza in four months, I don't want to start recieving pizza ads.

You hear me Whattsapp? You're next!
Uber is the biggest offender when it comes to tracking your personal data.
 

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I have learned more on UP than just about any site of the web. Facebook is a big pusher for the fossil fuel industry as is You Tube. The first ban should be directed at FB for all the automobile advertising they do.

Uber is the biggest offender when it comes to tracking your personal data.
I have never downloaded the Uber or Lyft apps precisely because of this. Matter of fact, I've only been in an Uber once because a friend invited me to dinner.

I'm thinking of just chucking the whole smart phone thing and getting just a regular dumb phone.
 

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I have learned more on UP than just about any site of the web. Facebook is a big pusher for the fossil fuel industry as is You Tube. The first ban should be directed at FB for all the automobile advertising they do.
Karl, are you really complaining about advertisments on a free site? Would you rather pay a monthly subsrciption fee to use their serivce? It's expensive to maintain a site as big as Facebok, and therefore they have to advertise or charge ppl to use their service. Since ppl are not a fan of paying for serivices, then advertisement is the only other option to stay in bussiness and make money.

As for trolling, don't ever download twitter. Boy, those bots are mean.

Also download ad block, karl. It helps to avoid advertisements on a lot of sites.
 

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Karl, are you really complaining about advertisments on a free site? Would you rather pay a monthly subsrciption fee to use their serivce? It's expensive to maintain a site as big as Facebok, and therefore they have to advertise or charge ppl to use their service. Since ppl are not a fan of paying for serivices, then advertisement is the only other option to stay in bussiness and make money.

As for trolling, don't ever download twitter. Boy, those bots are mean.

Also download ad block, karl. It helps to avoid advertisements on a lot of sites.
FaceBooks business model is based on making people addicted. I read not too long ago that for every FB user the company has monetized that person to approximately 5 dollars in 2017 times 2 billion users. This company has exceeded its usefulness as a social media company. It needs to be broken up and smashed. Its' success does not equate with the common good, yes I do think it is time to pay. Sites based on eyeballs fit too much the capitalist greed and consumption function. FB is now a problem we as a society need to address.

BTW, great discussion.
 
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