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The biggest reason is because set your own fares model does not work. People like @natemansi11 sit at home until someone within 7 minutes of their house is desperate enough to pay 3-5x. The system was also poorly designed in that people on both sides were confused and cancellations were incredibly high.

The second problem with the set your own fare system w a 75/25 split is that under that model, Uber can’t take a loss on a ride. That is a critical part of keeping pick up times in the 4-7 minute range while still keeping fares down for the pax. Uber will gladly pay drivers more than what they charge pax (via incentives like surge and ctbs) to make sure the ride counts stay high and pick up times remain low. Under set your own fares that can’t happen. Drivers don’t pick up the base fare rides and the most important pax (the everyday short ride people) are forced to pay $15-$20 on every ride rather than the $8.64 they have been used to with an occasional $12-20 surge on weekends and busy times. Once it becomes $15-20 on every trip and you have to wait 15-20 minutes to find a driver, Uber loses customers.

Uber is now a publicly traded company and has to make profits. They can’t make profits with a strict 75/25 split and a fleet of drivers who refuse to work for less than the pay of doctors.
I've seen the light and I want to apologize for myself and all rideshare drivers for being selfish and not putting the welfare of both the pax and Uber corporation ahead of ourselves.
 

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I guess if you're forced to rely on Uber income If you are I feel real bad for you
I have total respect for those who make a living from rideshare/ delivery. They hustle hard and that's nothing to mock. I would be nervous as heck depending on this for a living but there are some who are happy as a can be and that's not a bad thing! For that I salute them! While You and I and several others are frustrated with decreased earnings/ loss of true independence, others make it work for them and that's something to respect.
 

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Didn't see much of any surge tonight while I was between rides. Switched to Lyft and caught a mystery ride from Sports Arena to... the middle of nowhere Alpine. Then another Lyft mystery ride to... middle of nowhere East Barona Indian reservation. I was done with Lyft playing sick twisted jokes on me so I switched to Uber. No destination info, so I put in destination setting to Ocean Beach. Uber mystery ride from Barona Casino to... middle of nowhere SE El Cajon.

Some days you're the hammer... some days you're the nail. Tonight... well, tonight kinda rough.
 

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I've seen the light and I want to apologize for myself and all rideshare drivers for being selfish and not putting the welfare of both the pax and Uber corporation ahead of ourselves.
Nobody asked you to do that. The person asked a question and I answered. In fact the person who posted the question even thanked me for a thoughtful response. Nowhere in my response did I say anyone should put Uber’s welfare ahead of their own.

Aren’t you exclusively a “deliverista” as AOC calls the Uber Eats people? Your pax are chicken nuggets and pizzas. You should definitely not put them ahead of yourself! You should move to CA and take advantage of the Prop 22 benefits. Delivery drivers are the ones that benefit most from Prop 22!

Im definitely not one of those people to tell people which forum groups to participate in, and you are welcome to keep joining us here in the CA threads, but why such hostility on threads you clearly aren’t understanding from all the way across the country?
 

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@Livekilometers96 So how was Los Angeles last night? $ 440 on nine hours 26 rides. But that first trip helped a bit. Airport was pretty surgy (new word) and I got to try out the new pick your ride from this list got a plus 20 to Kensington and didn’t have to wait in a 95 driver queue. Saw airport up to plus 30 last night.
 

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@Livekilometers96 So how was Los Angeles last night? $ 440 on nine hours 26 rides. But that first trip helped a bit. Airport was pretty surgy (new word) and I got to try out the new pick your ride from this list got a plus 20 to Kensington and didn’t have to wait in a 95 driver queue. Saw airport up to plus 30 last night.
False start on Professor Kilomiler! I had a fraternity brother from college hit me up for dinner last night in OB. Currently waiting on for a DF ping to take me up into OC to start my night.

Excellent job last night. The map seemed very uninviting but you clearly made it work as usual!
 

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I have total respect for those who make a living from rideshare/ delivery. They hustle hard and that's nothing to mock. I would be nervous as heck depending on this for a living but there are some who are happy as a can be and that's not a bad thing! For that I salute them! While You and I and several others are frustrated with decreased earnings/ loss of true independence, others make it work for them and that's something to respect.
i disnt say i didnt reapect then you idiot stop putting worda in my mouth....look how much time o spwnd fighting for them....stop being a emotional ******
 

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Why is the fare so high? I didn't see any surge today ...
Well think about it and the surge and the search Uber just incorporates into their take of the price so so when you hit a surge and you look at how much you made it's like 40% of the actual price the customer paid without the search the search it's something like 80% In some cases the surge is a lie And Uber is purposely misleading us which is fraudulent
 

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Well think about it and the surge and the search Uber just incorporates into their take of the price so so when you hit a surge and you look at how much you made it's like 40% of the actual price the customer paid without the search the search it's something like 80% In some cases the surge is a lie And Uber is purposely misleading us which is fraudulent
my head hurts
 
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