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Well here's my two cents, I drove the Tesla model 3 standard range for 2 months, has a range of 270 mi, after running air conditioning and plugging in all of my USB devices I was lucky if I got 240 or 250 miles out of it, you can't bring the car down to like only 20 30 miles to go because you can't pick up anybody anymore so you got to go charge so here comes the problem I got 220 miles usable range, to bring it to full charge doing on peak hours was costing almost 30 bucks, so how much money was I realistically saving with the time lost charging it, and I know for a fact that I lost two decent trips because a few times I forgot to turn the app off when I was charging and I got a ping going to LAX airport and one going to San Diego, I called passengers they wouldn't even wait the 10 or 15 minutes I needed to bring it up to 120 mile range, I lost two decent fares as a fact I don't think I lost them I know I lost them, driving the EV on rideshare is a freaking waste of time and money,

And let me not forget the fact that if you need to charge that car in a high demand market doing peak hours you may wind up having to wait for a charger that happened to me about five times lots of fun sitting there waiting to charge it and then waiting for the car to charge, you all have fun driving those EVs,

EV's great for the environment, how is it great for the environment the market I live in I don't know of any nuclear power plants or solar power plants around the ev's power charger is connected to the freaking grid I live at.
Uh $30? U must be doing something wrong. The most ive ever paid was $24 but now i have it down to $8-$12. Normally I stop and have me a lunch while i charge. Takes 35 minutes to get to 90% and i usually only drop it to like 75% for the rest of my day. And i charge halfway thru. The whole missing rides lol. U think a customer will wait if i needed to take a dump? No, so just turn off the app. LA market is constantly pinging. I usually turn it on when my car is at 80%.

Also for the other comment ive never seen the seat bubble up like that.

Furthermore even with AC and Usb devices plugged in. In my entire drive ill lose, tops like 5%. I guess u can argue 5% is sometjing but come on?

Also for future info, and other Ev Drivers. The charge rate for standard models isnt that diffrent at a 250kw station or a 100-150kw station. So dont think ur charging faster at a 250kw station. Maybe saving like a few minutes. But if a 250kw station is busy or packed just go to a 150kw station or use an EvGo station that juices 100kw. Its not hard honestly been doing this for 2 months now and ive never waited for a charger. And im out there from 11am to 8pm.

I should just make a youtube video on this. Shiiii. I'll just keep my secrets
 

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I do not understand how someone can afford $500 a week to rent a Tesla then sit around when it is charging. Uber is offering rides that equate to @$10-12 an hour now. It is not sustainable. So what now, you are going to work for 30-50 hours a week just to get to the point where you can start earning $12 an hour after you work 30-50 hours to pay for the car??? FYI, if you do not get the insurance and your rental gets totaled, you are going to have to cough up thousands.
 

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TLDR..............

Rode as an Uber pax in KIA Niro EV 6-8 months ago.

Dude said to me he paid $60K CAD for the car and he put $10K down and pays $700 a month......."gack" (I paid $27K for my KIA Soul).

Then he paid $3,500 for the in garage wiring and charger unit........and now his home electric bill has increased by $350 a month.

Complains about the range too.......and he only gets 1-2 "Green" fares a day for the extra $1.00

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Green fares pay an extra dollar?
Ive been getting $1 for every ride. So that $2 hmm. Ill consider this info when i see uber green pop up.

Tesla model 3 came out to 46k USD on paper.
Took about 4k rebate, 1.5k instant credit. And i didnt wire my house... yet. thats 40.5k

Also put a down payment for 10k to lower my monthly to $500

I probably get an increase of $1 or $2 a day on my electric bill. Thats like $30 - $60 a month extra.

I pay about $10/avg to charge a day for uber. 5 days a week thats under $50x4 weeks. Thats $260 monthly... about.
 

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I do not understand how someone can afford $500 a week to rent a Tesla then sit around when it is charging. Uber is offering rides that equate to @$10-12 an hour now. It is not sustainable. So what now, you are going to work for 30-50 hours a week just to get to the point where you can start earning $12 an hour after you work 30-50 hours to pay for the car??? FYI, if you do not get the insurance and your rental gets totaled, you are going to have to cough up thousands.
500 a week? I pay 500 a month.
I dont do uber rides at 10/hr lol maybe thats why my charge last so long. I do at least $1 a min rides.
I have insurance lol. Im on the app 11am to 8pm. That doesnt mean im just droving around. Currently 10:30 bout to have bfast and have the app on at my table. While my car is probably almost done charging in my garage.
 

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Uh $30? U must be doing something wrong. The most ive ever paid was $24 but now i have it down to $8-$12. Normally I stop and have me a lunch while i charge. Takes 35 minutes to get to 90% and i usually only drop it to like 75% for the rest of my day. And i charge halfway thru. The whole missing rides lol. U think a customer will wait if i needed to take a dump? No, so just turn off the app. LA market is constantly pinging. I usually turn it on when my car is at 80%.

Also for the other comment ive never seen the seat bubble up like that.

Furthermore even with AC and Usb devices plugged in. In my entire drive ill lose, tops like 5%. I guess u can argue 5% is sometjing but come on?

Also for future info, and other Ev Drivers. The charge rate for standard models isnt that diffrent at a 250kw station or a 100-150kw station. So dont think ur charging faster at a 250kw station. Maybe saving like a few minutes. But if a 250kw station is busy or packed just go to a 150kw station or use an EvGo station that juices 100kw. Its not hard honestly been doing this for 2 months now and ive never waited for a charger. And im out there from 11am to 8pm.

I should just make a youtube video on this. Shiiii. I'll just keep my secrets
So you enjoy your automobile telling you when and where to take a break, do you enjoy all the little quirks and glitches, like the car not seeing certain road debris when autopilot is on and I'm talking about autopilot which is just a sophisticated cruise control I'm not talking about self-driving, do you like The Phantom breaking, do you like the fact that the rear windows don't roll all the way down, do you like the fact that the back seat passengers have no manual release so if you were to get into some type of accident and lose power they can't get out of the car,

Got to love your comment, if one charge station is busy go to another one, so not only do I need to take time from earning to charge the car now I can take even more time to go look for a non-busy station that thing is not worth the hassle, the glitches, and not ready for prime time,

Oh and by the way are you renting it from Hertz Do you like the fact that you have no access to the glove box so you can stick in your own usb drive to record the car security, I know how to open it I stuck in my own usb drive.
 

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So you enjoy your automobile telling you when and where to take a break, do you enjoy all the little quirks and glitches, like the car not seeing certain road debris when autopilot is on and I'm talking about autopilot which is just a sophisticated cruise control I'm not talking about self-driving, do you like The Phantom breaking, do you like the fact that the rear windows don't roll all the way down, do you like the fact that the back seat passengers have no manual release so if you were to get into some type of accident and lose power they can't get out of the car,

Got to love your comment, if one charge station is busy go to another one, so not only do I need to take time from earning to charge the car now I can take even more time to go look for a non-busy station that thing is not worth the hassle, the glitches, and not ready for prime time.
U guys are on another level of hate lol
I dont mind the brake time. Rides come and go. I dont have the mentality of Missing out. Living in LA theres always opportunity. Quirks and glirches? Havent experienced 1. Semi autopilot is dope. Less stress on the road. I watch for debris the car drives.

Phantom breaking used to be a thing. Not anymore. Rear windows not rolling all the way down, could careless. Im driving so meh.

The whole accident thing. U might be right but how often does a person get into such a horrible accident in stop and go traffic. I mean if i was in such an accident in a regular car and the door was jammed shut what do you do?

Back to charging the car, the car and apps tell you if theres chargers available. Unless ur driving the car to 5% and have to absolutely go to the nearest charger 10-20% is like 30 to 60 miles.

Santa monica alone has a station with 62 chargers and everytime i go theres 40 available. Hermosa beach has an evgo station with 3 chargers and theres always at least 1 available. Lol yesterday o charged by ucla and all 4 chargers were free at 2pm. And by 8pm i got home with 50%

u guys are tripping lol
 

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U guys are on another level of hate lol
I dont mind the brake time. Rides come and go. I dont have the mentality of Missing out. Living in LA theres always opportunity. Quirks and glirches? Havent experienced 1. Semi autopilot is dope. Less stress on the road. I watch for debris the car drives.

Phantom breaking used to be a thing. Not anymore. Rear windows not rolling all the way down, could careless. Im driving so meh.

The whole accident thing. U might be right but how often does a person get into such a horrible accident in stop and go traffic. I mean if i was in such an accident in a regular car and the door was jammed shut what do you do?

Back to charging the car, the car and apps tell you if theres chargers available. Unless ur driving the car to 5% and have to absolutely go to the nearest charger 10-20% is like 30 to 60 miles.

Santa monica alone has a station with 62 chargers and everytime i go theres 40 available. Hermosa beach has an evgo station with 3 chargers and theres always at least 1 available. Lol yesterday o charged by ucla and all 4 chargers were free at 2pm. And by 8pm i got home with 50%

u guys are tripping lol
Stop and go traffic really, so you guess Putt-Putt around a small area on the street your car never sees the freeway interesting, I do not work in Los Angeles unless a trip sends me there, I'm in the Inland Empire market, I don't have the luxury of a charge station being on every block but good for you have fun in your Tonka toy Tesla.
 

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@Chingon - your $1 per ride zero emissions program expires on July 1st
 

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Honestly i didnt even know i was getting $1 extra.

Furthermore I'm in riverside market lol i go where the money takes me. I went from ONT to LAX then ended my day with an LAX to Chino/Norco ride. I see freeways but come on ur using worst case scenarios. How many accidents have u been in that trap u in the car? Chances are ill get rear ended or rear end someone. Ive been in both. And i drive a lot more defensive.

The more u drive to more u can plan out ur drives really. Youre making it sound like its a huge problem lol
 

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500 a week? I pay 500 a month.
I dont do uber rides at 10/hr lol maybe thats why my charge last so long. I do at least $1 a min rides.
I have insurance lol. Im on the app 11am to 8pm. That doesnt mean im just droving around. Currently 10:30 bout to have bfast and have the app on at my table. While my car is probably almost done charging in my garage.
I am talking about renting a tesla. If you rent, you are going to pay at least 500. If you do not opt for the extra insurance you are an idiot... as you can be forced to pay thousands due to deductible.
Must be nice to have an extra 10K cash to put as a down payment. Do you live on your own?

My Market is Charlotte? Looks like you are CA? our rates used to be 63 cents a mile, 11 cents a minute for uber x. then 54 cents a mile... now with up-front (up-whazoo) pricing many rides are less than 40 cents a mile... and I have plenty of proof. If you go by time... avg is often less than 12 an hour and as low as 7-8 an hour. (as surges are rare.) You have to get the quests and hope for surges and tips to make money. Check my post other recent posts.
 

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LA market is constantly pinging
Green fares pay an extra dollar?
Ive been getting $1 for every ride. So that $2 hmm. Ill consider this info when i see uber green pop up.
Living in LA theres always opportunity
Honestly i didnt even know i was getting $1 extra.

Furthermore I'm in riverside market lol
Before you post BS maybe you should have a little sheet of Lies already ready to go, so you don't trip over your own statement.
 

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I am talking about renting a tesla. If you rent, you are going to pay at least 500. If you do not opt for the extra insurance you are an idiot... as you can be forced to pay thousands due to deductible.
Must be nice to have an extra 10K cash to put as a down payment. Do you live on your own?

My Market is Charlotte? Looks like you are CA? our rates used to be 63 cents a mile, 11 cents a minute for uber x. then 54 cents a mile... now with up-front (up-whazoo) pricing many rides are less than 40 cents a mile... and I have plenty of proof. If you go by time... avg is often less than 12 an hour and as low as 7-8 an hour. (as surges are rare.) You have to get the quests and hope for surges and tips to make money. Check my post other recent posts.
I was paying $447 a week from the Hertz in Riverside california, make sure you watch YouTube videos about what to do if you ever think you're not going to make it to a tesla station, and that car has quirks and glitches, for example you have the autopilot on and if your foot is slightly resting on the accelerator the anti Collision system will not work car will not break under acceleration and I'm not saying your foot has to be actually like pressing hard on the accelerator guess has to be resting on it,

People are losing their lives in these Tesla's for a reason because they think the technology is going to save their life and in certain situations it will not.
 

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This cant be uber offering this
My driving needs have changed and an
electric vehicle just might work for me
If they can get the home installation of the
charging apparatus down I'm almost in
Tire Wheel Car Automotive tire Vehicle

You know what would even be slicker?
Buy one w test drive for a week
Get the money then return it for a hybrid LOL
 

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I was paying $447 a week from the Hertz in Riverside california, make sure you watch YouTube videos about what to do if you ever think you're not going to make it to a tesla station, and that car has quirks and glitches, for example you have the autopilot on and if your foot is slightly resting on the accelerator the anti Collision system will not work car will not break under acceleration and I'm not saying your foot has to be actually like pressing hard on the accelerator guess has to be resting on it,

People are losing their lives in these Tesla's for a reason because they think the technology is going to save their life and in certain situations it will not.
Back in 2016 i used to rent a nissan leaf for $300. It was cheaper to own a car and eventually i did buy one. I dont reccomend anyone to rent a car unless theyre gonna go full time and even then just do it temp.

Its good to know what to do in case of emergency like running out of a charge but again the car will tell you if youre getting too far away from a charger. Or if you will even make it to your destination.

Ive rested my foot on the pedal while on autopilot. Guess what? The car dings and warns you that ur pressing the pedal and that it wont brake.
 

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Back in 2016 i used to rent a nissan leaf for $300. It was cheaper to own a car and eventually i did buy one. I dont reccomend anyone to rent a car unless theyre gonna go full time and even then just do it temp.

Its good to know what to do in case of emergency like running out of a charge but again the car will tell you if youre getting too far away from a charger. Or if you will even make it to your destination.

Ive rested my foot on the pedal while on autopilot. Guess what? The car dings and warns you that ur pressing the pedal and that it wont brake.
Well this must be all new software updates, because I did almost run out of charge, I made it to a charge station with 1 mi to go, and let me also add if I had followed the navigation that the Tesla was giving me to get to the charge station I wouldn't have made it it was trying to send me far north to take the 210 Freeway go at least 10 MI East and then drop down south another couple miles to get to a charge station luckily I had enough sense to take the Main Street that was a direct route to the charge station, and as far as that message about will not break under acceleration it's just a small text display at the bottom of the screen there's not like a bunch of flashing lights or Bells telling you to take your foot off the accelerator, you making it sound like that car is a godsend and it's not it's got a long ways to go before it's perfect if it ever will be.
 

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I dont reccomend anyone to rent a car unless theyre gonna go full time and even then just do it temp.
Well we can agree on that, in fact here's my recommendation for anyone who's renting a car for Uber and or Lyft long-term, there are people out here for example that's been driving the same Tesla for nearly a year or more why, why not work there ass off for a few months save up some money and buy a car, even if have bad credit and have to get a high interest rate, just put more money toward the principal of the car payment every month, there are car payment calculators online that will allow you to put in your interest rate how much you're paying on the car per month and then put in how much want to pay extra per month and they will see that length of monthly payments will drop drastically and interest paid will drop by hundreds or even thousands.
 

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Well this must be all new software updates, because I did almost run out of charge, I made it to a charge station with 1 mi to go, and let me also add if I had followed the navigation that the Tesla was giving me to get to the charge station I wouldn't have made it it was trying to send me far north to take the 210 Freeway go at least 10 MI East and then drop down south another couple miles to get to a charge station luckily I had enough sense to take the Main Street that was a direct route to the charge station, and as far as that message about will not break under acceleration it's just a small text display at the bottom of the screen there's not like a bunch of flashing lights or Bells telling you to take your foot off the accelerator, you making it sound like that car is a godsend and it's not it's got a long ways to go before it's perfect if it ever will be.
It dings like somethings wrong with the message.
I did once do it on purpose. I wanted the car to speed up while it was on auto pilot and it told me to take control with a flashing red steering wheel and warning noises that said applying pressure to the pedal will not brake. It couldve been updated i dont remember if u mentioned the year u drove the car.

I dont think any car is perfect. But i will say that a lot of the complaints about the tesla are minimal. Theres probably more chargers now too.
Including EvGo who are slowly adding tesla cables to their chargers.

Oh i will say Theres only been 1 time that i pushed the cars limit that i reached a station with 1%. But i knew what i was doing because i had tested it with a nissan leaf. I took the 241 heading towards irvine. Steep incline and i sped thru it. Luckily the charger was at the bottom of the hill. Currently tesla now has updated their navigation to include elevation and weather.
 
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