[Wackypete2]

People are starting to wake up to the lies that the woke culture has been feeding us.
Waking up is different than woke - in fact it is opposite.
Waking up is being aware of your environment, using logic and previous experience to solve problems.
Being woke is being a sheep. Following the one in front of you, taking direction from the dog.

The awakening.
It's just starting.

Watch.

But yet this country continues to vote in the same politicians for years...both parties.

Peter

 

[UberBastid]

But yet this country continues to vote in the same politicians for years...both parties.

Peter

I KNOW.
WTF is up with THAT?

Is there such a big difference between the Facist Repubs and the Socialist Dems?
They will march us to the cliff - but, to the beat of a different drum.
As I take the last step over the ledge at the point of a bayonete I will be wondering ... just how much of a difference it makes.

God help us.

 

[ObeyTheNumbers]

If you don't have a garage then don't get an EV because it's not worth it! I traded my 2018 Camry for a Kia Niro EV and it's been nothing but a nightmare! There's not enough chargers out there and the ones that are out there don't work or they're offline or they're defected. Most of them are level 2 chargers and it takes twelve hours to charge and the level 3 chargers take two hours but it'll cost you $25 bucks so I have charge it twice a day and waste four hours and pay $50 bucks to keep this car running. Then if it's cold out you lose half of your battery life. I was better off keeping my Camry it was cheaper.

Thank you for the heads up!

 

[Chingon]

Back in 2016 I used to rent a Nissan Leaf to rideshare. About 98 - 110 miles. Id work 10 -12 hrs. Charging about 2-3 times a day. I would make about $300 a day.

Back then chargers were a bit harder to find. But i had the plugshare app which made it at least easy to find hidden ones. Also being such a small battery(24kw) and at 30-45 min charge time was a bit annoying. But it was doable. And although i was a rookie still made money. Granted i eventually switched to a prius so that i can work less hours and not have to charge every 3 hours. Plus i could take longer trips.

If i was in the same car it be easier today. More chargers. Uber now offers discounted prices for charging plans with evgo that help unless u find the free city chargers. And i can see where people are going so i can choose to do shorter trips and save some batt.

Today i switched from a Prius to a model 3. And I love it 100%. Twice as big as the nissan leaf 24kw at 50kw. Better mileage. I charge 1 time. Easy to find a charger. And now i choose only good pay rides so less miles driven, better pay. And my car doesnt get used up.

I always hear the arguments about "wait till u have battery problems." But ive personally driven about 40k miles so far, non-uber, in 1.5 years and still no problems.

So i disagree. Electric cars dont suck. But they arent for everyone. They do require extra thought when it comes to trip mangement and battery percentage.

 

[Signal Twenty]

If you don't have a garage then don't get an EV because it's not worth it! I traded my 2018 Camry for a Kia Niro EV and it's been nothing but a nightmare! There's not enough chargers out there and the ones that are out there don't work or they're offline or they're defected. Most of them are level 2 chargers and it takes twelve hours to charge and the level 3 chargers take two hours but it'll cost you $25 bucks so I have charge it twice a day and waste four hours and pay $50 bucks to keep this car running. Then if it's cold out you lose half of your battery life. I was better off keeping my Camry it was cheaper.

I’m sorry that you chose an inferior EV. Maybe you live in an area where EV infrastructure is not as good as it is here in Florida.
Your Kia charges ridicule slow, when you can actually find a Level 3 CCS plug that actually works. My Tesla was not much more money than your Kia, and it charges 3 times fater than the Kia, and it’s pretty rare to find a Tesla plug that’s out of order. 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Signal Twenty]

We have plenty of operational charging stations in my LIBERAL state and we pay half or less than half what you do for a level 3 charge. SMH

I hope you’re not fooling yourself - you do realize that the DCFC fees are mitigated with your tax money, right?
Also, in my RED state, my Tesla Superchargers cost less on average than those in liberal states (and that’s with tax money offsetting prices, because for sure they’d be higher). Keep voting for higher taxes.

 

[Signal Twenty]

70% of Americans live in single family homes so charging isn't an issue for them. New chargers can share a dryer breaker.

This guy's Kia will charge in 18 minutes. Now apparently he did zero homework on seeing if his area had level 3 chargers! Pretty dumb really.

Range isn't a problem with newer EVs.

So yeah....EVs work fine. If you don't think so, stop watching Tucker!

In my area you can charge overnight for 10 cents a KW. So $7-8 for a full charge. Do the math, that's about 3 cents per mile. Plus no oil changes, almost not brake jobs. But tires do wear faster. It saves money regardless of what the Tucker fans say. Plus...you blow away most every poor ICE owner in the 0-60! They hate that!!!

Idk if it’d charge in 18 minutes, and I’d argue that it’s a disservice to tell people that it does - cause then when they get an inferior EV and it doesn’t live up to what you’re saying 🤷🏻‍♂️. If it’s freezing cold, and the battery is cold-soaked, it’ll take longer, the car’s charging speed doesn’t help (the Kia charges slowww)

aside from that, it’s more fair to say that it shouldn’t cost more than $20 from 0-100, but nobody really does that. You fill up when your car is at 1/4 tank. Same thing applies with EVs. You don’t let it go below 20% or you risk causing long-term damage to the battery. Same as you don’t drain your gas tank down to “E” or you risk sucking up the crud at the bottom of your gas tank and causing long-term damage to the engine. 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Signal Twenty]

Oh no Mr. Tron blocked me let me go buy a gun so I can go shoot myself.

I'll be honest, I like the way you break it down I'm the same way I hold people accountable for what they say when most people just ignore it so I appreciate that.

Now, I can already tell that you're a mister know it all and that's why you're probably single and if you're not single then that's why your partner can't stand you but anyway, let's see how much of an idiot you are.

First of all, I can read a map and most of the chargers out in Chicago are level 2 chargers and they take forever to charge.

I got into an argument with EVgo yesterday because they sent me to two different places that didn't work.

I've elevated to the level of General Manager in the car business for over 30 years and Its not hard to operate an EV vehicle and Im not as stupid as you think I am.

I don't have a Tesla to supercharge we don't have those chargers for a Kia it takes 90 minutes to charge my car and it's $25 average each time and I have to do it twice a day. I waste two hours a day running around trying to find ones that work.

At 100% charged I get 220 miles and the minute I drive two miles and I turn the heater on it goes down to 180 miles and it keeps dropping from there.

You're just a big mouth moron who thinks he knows it all and you're better then everyone else in your own mind. Get your facts straight or go be a professor at some university if youre that smart.

ELECTRIC CARS SUCK IF YOU DONT HAVE A GARAGE TO PARK IT IN. THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!

You do realize that the cold affects gas cars in the same way, but they’re so ridiculously inefficient, you hardly notice 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Signal Twenty]

IMO every liberal should have one, they deserve it...

Pretty sure nobody (that’s able to rationalize and has a grip on reality🤣) has ever called me a liberal. My bottom line is that they’re wayyy cheaper to operate.

 

[Diamondraider]

Back in 2016 I used to rent a Nissan Leaf to rideshare. About 98 - 110 miles. Id work 10 -12 hrs. Charging about 2-3 times a day. I would make about $300 a day.

Back then chargers were a bit harder to find. But i had the plugshare app which made it at least easy to find hidden ones. Also being such a small battery(24kw) and at 30-45 min charge time was a bit annoying. But it was doable. And although i was a rookie still made money. Granted i eventually switched to a prius so that i can work less hours and not have to charge every 3 hours. Plus i could take longer trips.

If i was in the same car it be easier today. More chargers. Uber now offers discounted prices for charging plans with evgo that help unless u find the free city chargers. And i can see where people are going so i can choose to do shorter trips and save some batt.

Today i switched from a Prius to a model 3. And I love it 100%. Twice as big as the nissan leaf 24kw at 50kw. Better mileage. I charge 1 time. Easy to find a charger. And now i choose only good pay rides so less miles driven, better pay. And my car doesnt get used up.

I always hear the arguments about "wait till u have battery problems." But ive personally driven about 40k miles so far, non-uber, in 1.5 years and still no problems.

So i disagree. Electric cars dont suck. But they arent for everyone. They do require extra thought when it comes to trip mangement and battery percentage.

I read somewhere that the seats are not made for frequent “rubs” and they degrade quickly; especially in sunnier climes.

Is this an accurate point?

***As a comparison, the seats in my Altima got the first crack on the rear passenger seat at 170,000 miles. Driver seat was a little earlier

 

[Chingon]

40k miles in. No complaints. No scratches or tears and i clean it regularly.

 

[ANT 7]

TLDR..............

Rode as an Uber pax in KIA Niro EV 6-8 months ago.

Dude said to me he paid $60K CAD for the car and he put $10K down and pays $700 a month......."gack" (I paid $27K for my KIA Soul).

Then he paid $3,500 for the in garage wiring and charger unit........and now his home electric bill has increased by $350 a month.

Complains about the range too.......and he only gets 1-2 "Green" fares a day for the extra $1.00

 

[UberBastid]

TLDR..............

Rode as an Uber pax in KIA Niro EV 6-8 months ago.

Dude said to me he paid $60K CAD for the car and he put $10K down and pays $700 a month......."gack" (I paid $27K for my KIA Soul).

Then he paid $3,500 for the in garage wiring and charger unit........and now his home electric bill has increased by $350 a month.
~
Complains about the range too.......and he only gets 1-2 "Green" fares a day for the extra $1.00

He's Canadian .. so, well ... ~ wink-wink ~ you know.

 

[ANT 7]

Sorry........heh.

 

[Palermoguy]

40k miles in. No complaints. No scratches or tears and i clean it regularly.

OMG I have PTSD now! Everytime I see a Target or a Whole Foods I start panicking and freaking out! Who can I sue for this?

 

[Mfchicago]

These battery-operated vehicles just aren't ready for prime time. IMO they're wonderful for the early-adopters to play with - if they have charging facilities at home. They can charge them up in their garages and then go out and drive around for 100 or 150 miles in the cold and then drive them back to the garage for another overnight charge. But for commercial drivers who drive hundreds of miles per day in all temperatures, time is money. Battery-operated cars may improve with time, but they're not ready yet. Probably another decade, I would think, until the charging infrastructure is adequate and the technology has improved to give acceptable ranges in all weather conditions and acceptable recharge times.

 

[Mfchicago]

Guys do your homework before being gaitet into EV!







Icolder states it's idiotiC,

Inwarmer local, urban areas doable,

But not "green"!!!

Consider the cost manufacturing the batteries

Not to mention the replacement and recycle cost!

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[painfreepc]

Hey dude, I don't care if you're a premium member or the Queen of all members just keep your bulls*#t comments away from me. Now I know you're probably a narcissist and I apologize if I'm wrong but this is in no way an open invitation to go back and forth with you I don't have any interest in communicating with someone who sends idiotic messages like yours and that goes for anyone else who wants to use this forum as there own philosophical institution to make their mark before they leave this world.

Well here's my two cents, I drove the Tesla model 3 standard range for 2 months, has a range of 270 mi, after running air conditioning and plugging in all of my USB devices I was lucky if I got 240 or 250 miles out of it, you can't bring the car down to like only 20 30 miles to go because you can't pick up anybody anymore so you got to go charge so here comes the problem I got 220 miles usable range, to bring it to full charge doing on peak hours was costing almost 30 bucks, so how much money was I realistically saving with the time lost charging it, and I know for a fact that I lost two decent trips because a few times I forgot to turn the app off when I was charging and I got a ping going to LAX airport and one going to San Diego, I called passengers they wouldn't even wait the 10 or 15 minutes I needed to bring it up to 120 mile range, I lost two decent fares as a fact I don't think I lost them I know I lost them, driving the EV on rideshare is a freaking waste of time and money,

And let me not forget the fact that if you need to charge that car in a high demand market doing peak hours you may wind up having to wait for a charger that happened to me about five times lots of fun sitting there waiting to charge it and then waiting for the car to charge, you all have fun driving those EVs,

EV's great for the environment, how is it great for the environment the market I live in I don't know of any nuclear power plants or solar power plants around the ev's power charger is connected to the freaking grid I live at.

 

[Palermoguy]

Well here's my two cents, I drove the Tesla model 3 standard range for 2 months, has a range of 270 mi, after running air conditioning and plugging in all of my USB devices I was lucky if I got 240 or 250 miles out of it, you can't bring the car down to like only 20 30 miles to go because you can't pick up anybody anymore so you got to go charge so here comes the problem I got 220 miles usable range, to bring it to full charge doing on peak hours was costing almost 30 bucks, so how much money was I realistically saving with the time lost charging it, and I know for a fact that I lost two decent trips because a few times I forgot to turn the app off when I was charging and I got a ping going to LAX airport and one going to San Diego, I called passengers they wouldn't even wait the 10 or 15 minutes I needed to bring it up to 120 mile range, I lost two decent fares as a fact I don't think I lost them I know I lost them, driving the EV on rideshare is a freaking waste of time and money,

And let me not forget the fact that if you need to charge that car in a high demand market doing peak hours you may wind up having to wait for a charger that happened to me about five times lots of fun sitting there waiting to charge it and then waiting for the car to charge, you all have fun driving those EVs,

EV's great for the environment, how is it great for the environment the market I live in I don't know of any nuclear power plants or solar power plants around the ev's power charger is connected to the freaking grid I live at.

Well said, electric vehicles are no good for rideshares the only thing I did like is that they perform a little better but that doesn't matter it's about making money and you won't do it with one of them.

 

[Diamondraider]

40k miles in. No complaints. No scratches or tears and i clean it regularly.

The pictures I saw were more like a “saggy skin” appearance