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If you don't have a garage then don't get an EV because it's not worth it! I traded my 2018 Camry for a Kia Niro EV and it's been nothing but a nightmare! There's not enough chargers out there and the ones that are out there don't work or they're offline or they're defected. Most of them are level 2 chargers and it takes twelve hours to charge and the level 3 chargers take two hours but it'll cost you $25 bucks so I have charge it twice a day and waste four hours and pay $50 bucks to keep this car running. Then if it's cold out you lose half of your battery life. I was better off keeping my Camry it was cheaper.
 

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These battery-operated vehicles just aren't ready for prime time. IMO they're wonderful for the early-adopters to play with - if they have charging facilities at home. They can charge them up in their garages and then go out and drive around for 100 or 150 miles in the cold and then drive them back to the garage for another overnight charge. But for commercial drivers who drive hundreds of miles per day in all temperatures, time is money. Battery-operated cars may improve with time, but they're not ready yet. Probably another decade, I would think, until the charging infrastructure is adequate and the technology has improved to give acceptable ranges in all weather conditions and acceptable recharge times.
You couldn't of explained any better you're a thousand percent right we're still not ready for them.
 

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People are starting to wake up to the lies that the woke culture has been feeding us.
Waking up is different than woke - in fact it is opposite.
Waking up is being aware of your environment, using logic and previous experience to solve problems.
Being woke is being a sheep. Following the one in front of you, taking direction from the dog.

The awakening.
It's just starting.

Watch.
Hey dude, I don't care if you're a premium member or the Queen of all members just keep your bulls*#t comments away from me. Now I know you're probably a narcissist and I apologize if I'm wrong but this is in no way an open invitation to go back and forth with you I don't have any interest in communicating with someone who sends idiotic messages like yours and that goes for anyone else who wants to use this forum as there own philosophical institution to make their mark before they leave this world.
 

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LoL.
Noted.

You seem awful possessive of "this forum".
Since you've been here ... um, so long ... I assure you I will do my best to not tread upon your toes in future.

You speak as the new owner, don't you Mr. Musk?

PS: Are you really going to buy Disneyland? Will it include Disney World?



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You see, here we go with the back and forth crap! Couldn't you just take my constructive criticism as a compliment and just better yourself? No, you couldn't and you had to come back with some more idiotic comments that have nothing to do with me and Elon buying Twitter or his thinking about molesting Mickey.

Now the other guys read your second grade response and now they want to be like you so now I have to waste more time insulting them and again, all because of you. So look, you're girlfriend, wife or partner are probably sleeping with your best friend and it bothers you and now you've made this site your playground and you get to have a voice I get it it's a hard thing to deal with and I'll pray for you even though I'm not religious.

Just remember, at the end of the day we're just a bunch of going nowhere in life rideshare driver's that give cheap rides to people that think we're losers so it doesn't really matter what we have to say. I mean think about it, would you have sex with your Uber driver? I don't know maybe you would but most of us won't. 10-4
 

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Ok. He's blocked.
Oh no Mr. Tron blocked me let me go buy a gun so I can go shoot myself.
So I drive a 2022 model 3 LR. I wanted to reply to this uniformed individual personally.

"If you don't have a garage then don't get an EV because it's not worth it!"

False: owning a EV and getting the majority of it's benefits does NOT take a garage. The garage does not keep you from the benefits of no more gasoline, oil, antifreeze, water, transmission fluid, on and on.

"I traded my 2018 Camry for a Kia Niro EV and it's been nothing but a nightmare!"

This is your personal experience because you probably have no clue what it means to own and operate an EV and it's obvious because of what your run-on paragraph talked about.

"There's not enough chargers out there"

you are simply uneducated on the apps to find them.There are literally thousands of chargers.
Chargepoint and plug share are two major apps that will show you where all the free chargers are and I'm talking about thousands locally."

"and the ones that are out there don't work or they're offline or they're defected."

This statement is completely false. Well over 95% of the chargers if not 98% of the chargers work perfectly. The problem is is you don't know where they're at, any of them. Simply put you're still ignorant on where to find the chargers.

"Most of them are level 2 chargers and it takes twelve hours to charge"

This statement is absolutely true but you don't understand what a destination charger is what a level 2 charger is and what a supercharger is used for. You think that a level 2 charger is for fast charging and it absolutely is not. Level 2 charging and destination charging is for slow charging overnight for normal driving. Fast charging is for driving state to state. You are trying to use different charges for different things because you're uneducated. And then you want to complain about it when it's your fault.

"and the level 3 chargers take two hours but it'll cost you $25 bucks so I have charge it twice a day and waste four hours and pay $50 bucks to keep this car running."

This is a false statement it does not take 2 hours to charge your car at a supercharger. 15 minutes will get your battery at 80%. That's a minimum of 250 mi more than enough to get you on the road to drive people around. It might be your ignorance that has you sitting there for the last 20% because it takes 40 minutes for the last 20%. So again this is an ignorance issue. You don't understand how a car even charges. Of course you have to pay for electricity and even at the highest superchargers you're still paying the half the price of gasoline to take you the same distance. You make it sound as though it's costing you $50 to fill your electric vehicle up and it's not. It might cost you that to do it twice but if you were to do it with gasoline I guarantee 100% it would cost you two times as much.

"Then if it's cold out you lose half of your battery life."

Another false statement. You do not lose 50% of your battery unless you are in -40 to 60° weather. Now will you lose 10 to 25% absolutely true. But in all reality it is not negative zero 365 days a year. You act as though everyday it's Sub-Zero temperatures, do you live in the arctic? Be real in your statements not so ignorant.

"I was better off keeping my Camry it was cheaper."

Of course this statement is 100% true and 100% false. The Camry is not cheaper than the electric vehicle in everyday use. What you said is a lie and you said it because you are uninformed on how to operate and use an EV. The 100% true part is you were better off keeping your Camry. I hope you keep your Camry I hope you never ever get the benefits of an electric vehicle.
I'll be honest, I like the way you break it down I'm the same way I hold people accountable for what they say when most people just ignore it so I appreciate that.

Now, I can already tell that you're a mister know it all and that's why you're probably single and if you're not single then that's why your partner can't stand you but anyway, let's see how much of an idiot you are.

First of all, I can read a map and most of the chargers out in Chicago are level 2 chargers and they take forever to charge.

I got into an argument with EVgo yesterday because they sent me to two different places that didn't work.

I've elevated to the level of General Manager in the car business for over 30 years and Its not hard to operate an EV vehicle and Im not as stupid as you think I am.

I don't have a Tesla to supercharge we don't have those chargers for a Kia it takes 90 minutes to charge my car and it's $25 average each time and I have to do it twice a day. I waste two hours a day running around trying to find ones that work.

At 100% charged I get 220 miles and the minute I drive two miles and I turn the heater on it goes down to 180 miles and it keeps dropping from there.

You're just a big mouth moron who thinks he knows it all and you're better then everyone else in your own mind. Get your facts straight or go be a professor at some university if youre that smart.

ELECTRIC CARS SUCK IF YOU DONT HAVE A GARAGE TO PARK IT IN. THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!
 

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Personally I hope everyone believes that electric cars suck! I do Uber I do Lyft I make very good money because of one main reason. If I was to put gasoline in my car and drive it around it would cost $70, in my electric car it cost an average of less than $10 in electricity. The $70 in gasoline and the $10 in electricity takes me the exact same distance. If you don't get it you should. But if you don't that's great I'll just keep making good money and you guys can keep driving your gasoline vehicles have a huge turnover rate not make money it's on you. Keep believing the BS and I'm fine with it. Now if you want to stop believing BS and lies take a few minutes Google your question like what is the warranty of a battery on a tesla. How long does the battery on a Tesla last before it starts degrading. What is the difference between the price of gasoline and electric and how far will it take you in comparison? Do some research on your own and stop believing other people. This is the best advice anyone can ever give the idiots on this forum. Good luck and get informed that not my others take the time and learn for yourself. Good luck and to all the people that don't like electric cars I hope you never ever in your life has the opportunity to have all of the advantages of having electric car. That's my wish to you enjoy!
YOURE ANOTHER MORON JUST LIKE THE OTHER GUY!
Your not comparing apples to apples IM NOT TALKING ABOUT A TESLA IM TALKING ABOUT EVERY OTHER ELECTRIC CAR THAT ISNT A TESLA!

Get your facts straight big mouth just because it's convenient for you doesn't mean it's convenient for everyone else.
 

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Well here's my two cents, I drove the Tesla model 3 standard range for 2 months, has a range of 270 mi, after running air conditioning and plugging in all of my USB devices I was lucky if I got 240 or 250 miles out of it, you can't bring the car down to like only 20 30 miles to go because you can't pick up anybody anymore so you got to go charge so here comes the problem I got 220 miles usable range, to bring it to full charge doing on peak hours was costing almost 30 bucks, so how much money was I realistically saving with the time lost charging it, and I know for a fact that I lost two decent trips because a few times I forgot to turn the app off when I was charging and I got a ping going to LAX airport and one going to San Diego, I called passengers they wouldn't even wait the 10 or 15 minutes I needed to bring it up to 120 mile range, I lost two decent fares as a fact I don't think I lost them I know I lost them, driving the EV on rideshare is a freaking waste of time and money,

And let me not forget the fact that if you need to charge that car in a high demand market doing peak hours you may wind up having to wait for a charger that happened to me about five times lots of fun sitting there waiting to charge it and then waiting for the car to charge, you all have fun driving those EVs,

EV's great for the environment, how is it great for the environment the market I live in I don't know of any nuclear power plants or solar power plants around the ev's power charger is connected to the freaking grid I live at.
Well said, electric vehicles are no good for rideshares the only thing I did like is that they perform a little better but that doesn't matter it's about making money and you won't do it with one of them.
 
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