Double demerits have already started
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Double demerit points began at the beginning of today (Thursday 18 April).
Statement by NRMA:
We remind motorists in NSW and the ACT that double demerits will be in place for eight days during this month's Easter and ANZAC Day holiday period.
Double demerits will start on Thursday 18 April and run to Monday 22 April 2019. Then there will be a one day break before they start again on Wednesday 24 April and run through to Sunday 28 April (inclusive).
The double demerit points period applies from midnight of the start date to midnight on the finish date, meaning this month there will be a total of eight days where double demerit penalties will be in place.
Double demerit points apply for speeding, seatbelt, motorcycle helmet and mobile phone offences during all holiday periods such as long weekends, Christmas, New Year and Easter. Drivers caught using their phones during a double demerit period can expect to be hit with the fine as well as up to 10 demerits.
Please drive safely and take extra care on the roads.
(https://www.mynrma.com.au/cars-and-...ng-and-licences/resources/nsw-double-demerits)
Statement by NRMA:
We remind motorists in NSW and the ACT that double demerits will be in place for eight days during this month's Easter and ANZAC Day holiday period.
Double demerits will start on Thursday 18 April and run to Monday 22 April 2019. Then there will be a one day break before they start again on Wednesday 24 April and run through to Sunday 28 April (inclusive).
The double demerit points period applies from midnight of the start date to midnight on the finish date, meaning this month there will be a total of eight days where double demerit penalties will be in place.
Double demerit points apply for speeding, seatbelt, motorcycle helmet and mobile phone offences during all holiday periods such as long weekends, Christmas, New Year and Easter. Drivers caught using their phones during a double demerit period can expect to be hit with the fine as well as up to 10 demerits.
Please drive safely and take extra care on the roads.
(https://www.mynrma.com.au/cars-and-...ng-and-licences/resources/nsw-double-demerits)
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More nonsense from our beloved state government. Stats have proven over and over again that double demerits have no influence on road deaths, yet they keep persisting with it.
And as per usual us rideshare drivers are risking up to 12 demerit points driving around pax who wont put on their seatbelts. Had one old lady today who when asked to put on a seatbelt said "i don't like seatbelts". During Xmas/NYE period after asking a group of English holidaymakers to put on their seatbelts, one said "**** off, I have never had a taxi driver tell me to put on a seat belt".
Needless to say I ended that trip but I didn't end the trip with the old lady as one can be sure there would have been a complaint made against me. I assumed that audio from my dashcam would be sufficient to get me off any fine if stopped by police.
And as per usual us rideshare drivers are risking up to 12 demerit points driving around pax who wont put on their seatbelts. Had one old lady today who when asked to put on a seatbelt said "i don't like seatbelts". During Xmas/NYE period after asking a group of English holidaymakers to put on their seatbelts, one said "**** off, I have never had a taxi driver tell me to put on a seat belt".
Needless to say I ended that trip but I didn't end the trip with the old lady as one can be sure there would have been a complaint made against me. I assumed that audio from my dashcam would be sufficient to get me off any fine if stopped by police.
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From my understanding midnight on the start date (today) is a couple of hours away. (being about 10 pm now).
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Well your understanding is wrong. Double demerits started at 12.00am Thursday morning
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I think you will find that it is Thursday 12 Midnight, not Thursday 12am, there is a difference.
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Double demerits start at 00:01 on the start date. So they started at 00:01 yesterday 18/04/19
They end at 24:00 on the end date (Monday 22/04/19)
Then restart at 00:01 Wednesday 24/04/19 and end at 24:00 Sunday 28/04/19
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You are wasting your time. @Grumpy Old Man won't admit his mistake.
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From the NRMA....
I rest my case. :smuggrin:
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I rest my case. :smuggrin:
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Midnight at start date which is 12:01am Thursday 18/04/19.
Your source from NRMA also quotes this
@Max Arnold is correct
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How can midnight and 12.01am be the same time?
So using that logic then the end date would be Monday 12.01am
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Lots of folks do Not understand AM & PM and do Not understand Midnight.
The best way to break it down and try to get people to grasp it -
is to explain
Using the DAY & Time of Day changes take place.
So on the very Late Night of Wednesday the 17th April at the very last moment of this Night WHICH THEN BECOMES the Start Very Very EARLY MORNING Beginnining of THURSDAY 18th April - THAT'S when double demerits starts.
The best way to break it down and try to get people to grasp it -
is to explain
Using the DAY & Time of Day changes take place.
So on the very Late Night of Wednesday the 17th April at the very last moment of this Night WHICH THEN BECOMES the Start Very Very EARLY MORNING Beginnining of THURSDAY 18th April - THAT'S when double demerits starts.
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So if you apply the same rules then it would stop first thing Monday morning, 12.01am.
Well l'm glad I'm the one that is putting in the road closures in Waze and not Grumpy Old Man or acne. (Attached) instead of a continuous closure from 10pm Friday to Monday 5am, it would close from Friday to 23.59 Sunday night, reopen for the full day on Monday and close again 00:01 Tues. Till 5am in the morning.
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‘Midnight’ on a specified date is an inherently slippery concept as midnight marks the transition from one day to the next and can be both the end of one day and the beginning of the next.
Australian Government legislative drafters tend these days to avoid using the word ‘midnight’ in all legislation. Instead, they refer to the ‘beginning’ of a specified day or to the ‘end’ of a specified day.
Australian Government legislative drafters tend these days to avoid using the word ‘midnight’ in all legislation. Instead, they refer to the ‘beginning’ of a specified day or to the ‘end’ of a specified day.
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