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Normally i dont post stuff like this because the people who have these types of conversations are extremely sensitive. But I finally decided to post to get opinions, and vent my frusteration on how ass backwards people are today on social issues.

Basically the conversation took a turn to hiring practices and discrimination.

Pax: People of color are discriminated against in some hiring situations.

Me: I agree. No argument here.

Pax: If i was a hiring manager, I wouldnt hire anyone who exhibits racist tendecies.

Me: I dont agree with racism in any way shape or form. But not hiring somebody due to belief ststem is discrimination, and unethical.

Pax: No it’s not. If you hold racist ideals it impacts job performance. Thus I wouldnt hire.

Me: Not hiring somebody due to race, sexual orientation, or religion is discrimination. But refusing to hire some one for their belief system is not?

This scenario is what bothers me. Im happy for change and equality on all fronts, but this is insane. You cannot dismiss one form of discrimination and say the other is okay.

Sorry for the long post. This conversation just really bothered me. Thoughts?
 

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Normally i dont post stuff like this because the people who have these types of conversations are extremely sensitive. But I finally decided to post to get opinions, and vent my frusteration on how ass backwards people are today on social issues.

Basically the conversation took a turn to hiring practices and discrimination.

Pax: People of color are discriminated against in some hiring situations.

Me: I agree. No argument here.

Pax: If i was a hiring manager, I wouldnt hire anyone who exhibits racist tendecies.

Me: I dont agree with racism in any way shape or form. But not hiring somebody due to belief ststem is discrimination, and unethical.

Pax: No it's not. If you hold racist ideals it impacts job performance. Thus I wouldnt hire.

Me: Not hiring somebody due to race, sexual orientation, or religion is discrimination. But refusing to hire some one for their belief system is not?

This scenario is what bothers me. Im happy for change and equality on all fronts, but this is insane. You cannot dismiss one form of discrimination and say the other is okay.

Sorry for the long post. This conversation just really bothered me. Thoughts?
Your false equivalency. Big difference between not hiring someone who harbors racist views and someone of a certain race . Big difference my friend , try having better analytical skills.
 

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Your false equivalency. Big difference between not hiring someone who harbors racist views and someone of a certain race . Big difference my friend , try having better analytical skills.
I disagree. Both are forms of discrimination if not hired due to the fact.. Also you just proved my point. This is a conversation. Which apparently you can't handle without insulting someone...Sad
 

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It’s the age we are in, that many people have eggshell sensitivities and to NOT speak out can be construed as buy-in or tolerance to whatever the cultural horrible may be.

Also depends on the role. Journalist or media? Risk of a racist comment and firestorm is big. Construction worker or IT drone? Not so much.
 

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A racist in the workplace that keeps his views to himself is just as welcome to me as a Christian, an atheist, a socialist, or a Marxist. If he/she in any way causes an issue, then that is an issue that needs to be dealt with.

The day the thought police dictate what we do, where we go, where we can work or what we can buy, is the day this country is over.
 

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I wouldn't want a racist in my workplace, seems like it would affect workplace morale.

No hire.
I dont disagree. Having a racist in a workplace is detrimental in many aspects. The point i was making, is even though someone has racist ideals, which in my oppinion are wrong, not being hired is a form of discrimination. Whether we agree with the way someone feels or not.
 

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I dont disagree. Having a racist in a workplace is detrimental in many aspects. The point i was making, is even though someone has racist ideals, which in my oppinion are wrong, not being hired is a form of discrimination. Whether we agree with the way someone feels or not.
There's a line on beliefs. I can believe that the rich should pay more taxes and that we need progressive taxation, that's a belief that isn't likely to lead to me harming or making offensive statements to people so an organization can't really discriminate against me for it. Being a racist in an area as diverse as DC would be problematic.

Also - political beliefs are definitely a reason for people not getting jobs in this area. Try applying for a job at the Heritage Foundation with Obama and Hillary campaign experience or even work for Planned Parenthood or any of the other liberal orgs here, you won't even get an interview. Organizations always look for people whose beliefs line up with theirs.
 

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The process of hiring someone is pure discrimination...You're discriminating on education, previous experience, attitude, appearance, , communication skills, likability.

*Unless you are Uber or Lyft....they'll hire anybody. As proof, I present to you Exhibit A: the wide array of deplorables on this forum...we got bleeding hearts, fascists, lunatics and scoundrels. And that's just describing the leftists.
 

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Your false equivalency. Big difference between not hiring someone who harbors racist views and someone of a certain race . Big difference my friend , try having better analytical skills.
He was equating belief systems. Not race. Would you hire a Muslim who believes you must die for being an infidel?

There's a line on beliefs. I can believe that the rich should pay more taxes and that we need progressive taxation, that's a belief that isn't likely to lead to me harming or making offensive statements to people so an organization can't really discriminate against me for it. Being a racist in an area as diverse as DC would be problematic.

Also - political beliefs are definitely a reason for people not getting jobs in this area. Try applying for a job at the Heritage Foundation with Obama and Hillary campaign experience or even work for Planned Parenthood or any of the other liberal orgs here, you won't even get an interview. Organizations always look for people whose beliefs line up with theirs.
We already have progressive taxation.
 

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Normally i dont post stuff like this because the people who have these types of conversations are extremely sensitive. But I finally decided to post to get opinions, and vent my frusteration on how ass backwards people are today on social issues.

Basically the conversation took a turn to hiring practices and discrimination.

Pax: People of color are discriminated against in some hiring situations.

Me: I agree. No argument here.

Pax: If i was a hiring manager, I wouldnt hire anyone who exhibits racist tendecies.

Me: I dont agree with racism in any way shape or form. But not hiring somebody due to belief ststem is discrimination, and unethical.

Pax: No it's not. If you hold racist ideals it impacts job performance. Thus I wouldnt hire.

Me: Not hiring somebody due to race, sexual orientation, or religion is discrimination. But refusing to hire some one for their belief system is not?

This scenario is what bothers me. Im happy for change and equality on all fronts, but this is insane. You cannot dismiss one form of discrimination and say the other is okay.

Sorry for the long post. This conversation just really bothered me. Thoughts?
Its not discrimination to not hire someone who has a problem with different people...
 

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He was equating belief systems. Not race. Would you hire a Muslim who believes you must die for being an infidel?
Perhaps you are the one lacking in skills?

We already have progressive taxation.
Me saying that we need it didn't imply that we don't already have it.

Also - if a person walked into a job interview and told me that I must die because I'm an infidel then I would totally justified in not hiring that person.
 
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