[Krishna]

When I quit Uber and Lyft they were paying $.95 per mile, minus of course their percentage, so really 76 cents a mile.

Have their rates gone up at all, or are they still that low?

 

[tohunt4me]

UNSUSTAINABLE !!!!!!

 

[68350]

Of course they haven't increased.

But I get .71, not .76. It's not a calculation off pax fare these days either.

 

[Krishna]

Well dang.Are the pings usually close after you drop, or do you end up having to deadhead a lot?

 

[carsalesman]

Uber and Lyft now get 1.3 of all the money they collect from passengers.

.7125 per mile on Uber an .71 on Lyft

If you haven't noticed, after you make your first $100, the rides slow down to about $12 per hour. There are exceptions on certain days.

 

[Krishna]

the rides slow down to about $12 per hour.

$12 payout you mean? That's pretty miserable.

 

[carsalesman]

$12 payout you mean? That's pretty miserable.

These algorithms are set up to slow down your money making ability. There are exceptions for certain days and times

I mean $12 per hour.

Example, you take a $15 Lyft ride from the airport to anywhere in the valley, be prepared to sit for a while before you get another ride.

Since the new terms and policies have come out, You can pretty much guarantee that 40 hours of driving with Lyft will make you $565 max. Terrible wages.

 

[Krishna]

By "payout" I was asking if the $12/hr was the amount you get from Uber/Lyft, or the amount you really get after paying additional costs of driving.

It seems like if they really throttle your income down to $12/hr, you could overcome that by working for multiple apps? Which makes me suspect that they are not really throttling driver income, they simply have too many drivers on the platform for anyone to make money.

 

[Boombowie]

The way I see it, if you don’t like the money you’re making, if you feel you’re being treated unfairly or you simply feel that you are being screwed by Uber and Lyft then you have a choice. You can choose to not drive for them and get a job. It’s really that simple. No amount of complaining, whining, crying, begging or pleading will change the amount they are paying you. They don’t give a damn about you, only the money they bring in just like every other corporation. You signed up to drive, you agreed to keep driving under their new terms and you agreed to the new surge pricing recently implemented. If you don’t like it, do something else. Simple as that.

 

[Krishna]

The way I see it, if you don't like a conversation, you don't have to join it.

 

[Boombowie]

The way I see it, if you don't like a conversation, you don't have to join it.

That's true but a lot of crying and whining nonetheless.

 

[carsalesman]

The way I see it, if you don't like the money you're making, if you feel you're being treated unfairly or you simply feel that you are being screwed by Uber and Lyft then you have a choice. You can choose to not drive for them and get a job. It's really that simple. No amount of complaining, whining, crying, begging or pleading will change the amount they are paying you. They don't give a damn about you, only the money they bring in just like every other corporation. You signed up to drive, you agreed to keep driving under their new terms and you agreed to the new surge pricing recently implemented. If you don't like it, do something else. Simple as that.

Changes are made when people stand up. Example... the full ride details are a result of a driver winning a suit against Uber for cheating him out of .03 per mile.

All changes come when someone stands up and points out the problem

 

[2Cents]

 

[Boombowie]

Changes are made when people stand up. Example... the full ride details are a result of a driver winning a suit against Uber for cheating him out of .03 per mile.

All changes come when someone stands up and points out the problem

Well stand up then and get 200,000 other drivers to stand up with you! Nobody on this forum is actually "standing up" to Uber and Lyft in any way that would make them take notice and make changes. That would take way more effort and organization than actually posting on a forum. Not disagreeing with your viewpoints, merely stating the obvious. If someone were to actually come up with a viable way to make an effective protest happen, I'm sure there would be plenty of drivers that would join in.

 

[Krishna]

Boombowie, when you organize this protest let us know. Until then the only one "whining" is you, complaining about other drivers who are exchanging information and making reasonable, critical comments. After all, this Forum Discussion is about sharing what the rates are, given that Uber and Lyft hide this information from passengers and prospective drivers alike.

 

[Boombowie]

Boombowie, when you organize this protest let us know. Until then the only one "whining" is you, complaining about other drivers who are exchanging information and making reasonable, critical comments. After all, this Forum Discussion is about sharing what the rates are, given that Uber and Lyft hide this information from passengers and prospective drivers alike.

Hahahaha now that's funny. I never whine and in fact I can actually make money when I'm driving as I know where to look. I never complained once about other drivers, I merely stated that they were complaining and were free to pursue other means of employment at any time. Again my question stands...if drivers aren't happy with their share of the pie, why do they continue to drive for Uber and Lyft? By your own admission you quit driving so you actually have no "skin in the game" if that indeed is the case. I don't need to organize any sort of protest because I really don't care what Uber or Lyft collect. I agreed to the TOS and know what my cut is. If I ever feel that's not what I feel is right for me, then I'll stop driving. No amount of complaining on a forum will ever get either one of those companies to freely give you more money.

 

[Krishna]

This all sounds like whining to me, Boombowie. From what I can tell, if people talk badly about their superiors (Uber and Lyft), you think they should just be silent. And yet you can't help pitching into the discussion while the adults are discussing actual fares, a necessary part in a larger discussion of how it could all be better.

In truth, I wonder about the self-respect of people who not only keep accepting abuse from companies like Uber and Lyft, but then BLAME THEMSELVES for accepting this, and try to blame anyone else who speaks out, for being out of line. How about some backbone?

 

[Boombowie]

This all sounds like whining to me, Boombowie. From what I can tell, if people talk badly about their superiors (Uber and Lyft), you think they should just be silent. And yet you can't help pitching into the discussion while the adults are discussing actual fares, a necessary part in a larger discussion of how it could all be better.

In truth, I wonder about the self-respect of people who not only keep accepting abuse from companies like Uber and Lyft, but then BLAME THEMSELVES for accepting this, and try to blame anyone else who speaks out, for being out of line. How about some backbone?

Again, drivers agreed to the TOS. They are free to stop driving at any time. I have plenty of back bone and it certainly could be better but complaining on this forum will not change anything. Those that don't drive for these companies anymore, such as yourself, obviously quit for whatever reason. Keep discussing on the forum all you want, makes no difference to me. My original comments stand, if you don't like it then quit driving for them. Uber and Lyft will continue to take the percentage they feel they can get away with and no amount of whining on THIS forum will ever change that. Call it what you want, but it sounds like whining to me.

 

[Krishna]

I didn't notice any whining on this discussion until Boombowie showed up. Before that we were talking about rates and strategies. Caresalesman was alleging that Uber and Lyft throttle their drivers' incomes down to about $12/hr (which is certainly not anything anyone agreed to). I suggested that this could easily be counteracted by driving for multiple apps.

Interestingly, it was at this point, when actual practical solutions were being discussed that the troll appeared and tried to shout everyone down.

 

[Boombowie]

I didn't notice any whining on this discussion until Boombowie showed up. Before that we were talking about rates and strategies. Caresalesman was alleging that Uber and Lyft throttle their drivers' incomes down to about $12/hr (which is certainly not anything anyone agreed to). I suggested that this could easily be counteracted by driving for multiple apps.

Interestingly, it was at this point, when actual practical solutions were being discussed that the troll appeared and tried to shout everyone down.

Is that what you call whining these days? Strategy? If you don't even drive for either platform anymore, I'm curious as to why you are discussing "strategy". Let me know when your forum discussions lead to tangible change. Thanks