[observer]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/22/congress-gig-economy-workers-cohn-141886

 

[ANT 7]

They need to bail out the bailout industry first.

 

[doyousensehumor]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/22/congress-gig-economy-workers-cohn-141886

Everyone has their hands out right now.

The original problem is not addressed. No one's going to admit this, and none of you guys going to like what I say cuz we just want to play victim.

No one should be bailed out. Especially us drivers. America as a whole, has been living in too much debt, too much living above their means. Never prepared for a rainy day, or an emergency. Employees forever dependent on their employer. Independent contractors, like Uber drivers, are worse, treating their gig work as an employee. Never trained how to be responcible. Never learned to become self reliant.

🙃 It's all uber's fault for decisions the driver made
All the government's fault for poor choices we made.
We each need a piece of the pie, paid for those who made the right decisions. Paid for by printing and borrowing more money. Paid for by the next generation.

We need money NOW for the poor decisions we have made as a majority of this country.

No one wants to talk about how vulnerable we have allowed ourselves to become.

 

[observer]

Everyone has their hands out right now.

The original problem is not addressed. No one's going to admit this, and none of you guys going to like what I say cuz we just want to play victim.

None should be bailed out. Especially us drivers. America as a whole, has been living in too much debt, too much living above their means. Never prepared for a rainy day, or an emergency. Employees forever dependent on their employer. Independent contractors, like Uber drivers, are worse, treating their gig work as an employee. Never trained how to be responcible. Never learned to become self reliant.

🙃 It's all uber's fault for decisions the driver made
All the government's fault for poor choices we made.
We each need a piece of the pie, paid for those who made the right decisions. Paid for by printing and borrowing more money. Paid for by the next generation.

We need money NOW for the poor decisions we have made as a majority of this country.

No one wants to talk about how vulnerable we have allowed ourselves to become.

No argument there.

I do think the government needs to step back and think about allowing these companies to ignore labor laws.

Uber has billions of dollars in the bank to rideout this CV19. Have them draw down on it like they should have been doing all along.

 

[BadYota]

I don’t think anybody should get a bailout, and it looks like that’s not going to happen now that the dems didn’t get their pork barrel bill so they said no. Nobody in this country is allowed to fail anymore. Students don’t fail, companies don’t fail, loans don’t fail. Failure is a good thing, it gives people an indication that something is wrong and didn’t work. Not everyone was made to graduate high school or college, not every company should be in business. Not every government has the right ideas. People think that we need the airlines so we should bail them out. If they go bankrupt, they won’t just disappear. They’ll sell some assets, restructure, and somebody else will buy them. Somebody who won’t make that same mistake again. And air travel would actually get cheaper! If we want poor people to stop always losing money when they invest but rich people always get bailed out then we need to let these companies go under.

Even poor people shouldn’t get bailed out. They’ve made a lot of bad decisions like buying new iPhones and cars on credit and racking up debt. Let them sell some of the crap they own, and charity will step in to help them. People have too much pride in America. In other countries, multiple families live in the same house with 1 car. They do what they need to to get by. It’s gonna get tough and we need to sacrifice. Prices will fall this way as well. We all say we wish there was a better alternative to Uber and Lyft, well if we bail them out, there never will be.

 

[tohunt4me]

They need to bail out the bailout industry first.

wait till WE GET THE BILL !

Viruses DON'T PAY WAR RESTITUTION LIKE VANQUISHED COUNTRYS DO !

EVEN IF WE WIN THE VIRUS WAR.
WE PAY THE BILL.

 

[observer]

I don't think anybody should get a bailout, and it looks like that's not going to happen now that the dems didn't get their pork barrel bill so they said no. Nobody in this country is allowed to fail anymore. Students don't fail, companies don't fail, loans don't fail. Failure is a good thing, it gives people an indication that something is wrong and didn't work. Not everyone was made to graduate high school or college, not every company should be in business. Not every government has the right ideas. People think that we need the airlines so we should bail them out. If they go bankrupt, they won't just disappear. They'll sell some assets, restructure, and somebody else will buy them. Somebody who won't make that same mistake again. And air travel would actually get cheaper! If we want poor people to stop always losing money when they invest but rich people always get bailed out then we need to let these companies go under.

Even poor people shouldn't get bailed out. They've made a lot of bad decisions like buying new iPhones and cars on credit and racking up debt. Let them sell some of the crap they own, and charity will step in to help them. People have too much pride in America. In other countries, multiple families live in the same house with 1 car. They do what they need to to get by. It's gonna get tough and we need to sacrifice. Prices will fall this way as well. We all say we wish there was a better alternative to Uber and Lyft, well if we bail them out, there never will be.

Yupp.

Failure is a good teacher.

In this case though the pain could be felt for years. I'm more worried about how long it will take to get back to normal.

 

[doyousensehumor]

No argument there.

I do think the government needs to step back and think about allowing these companies to ignore labor laws.

Uber has billions of dollars in the bank to rideout this CV19. Have them draw down on it like they should have been doing all along.

You and I have had our disagreements, but what I like about you, is that you like to talk about them. I have read some of your stories of your ranch in Mexico, I think you get my message for independence.

My point though is I think people should ask themselves hard questions and be able to criticize themselves.

I said what I said, because even I am guilty of not being prepared. I admit I am one of the people that could use the money too.

Coming out of this, I am going to do things a little differently. I wonder who else shares the same feelings?

 

[tohunt4me]

I don't think anybody should get a bailout, and it looks like that's not going to happen now that the dems didn't get their pork barrel bill so they said no. Nobody in this country is allowed to fail anymore. Students don't fail, companies don't fail, loans don't fail. Failure is a good thing, it gives people an indication that something is wrong and didn't work. Not everyone was made to graduate high school or college, not every company should be in business. Not every government has the right ideas. People think that we need the airlines so we should bail them out. If they go bankrupt, they won't just disappear. They'll sell some assets, restructure, and somebody else will buy them. Somebody who won't make that same mistake again. And air travel would actually get cheaper! If we want poor people to stop always losing money when they invest but rich people always get bailed out then we need to let these companies go under.

Even poor people shouldn't get bailed out. They've made a lot of bad decisions like buying new iPhones and cars on credit and racking up debt. Let them sell some of the crap they own, and charity will step in to help them. People have too much pride in America. In other countries, multiple families live in the same house with 1 car. They do what they need to to get by. It's gonna get tough and we need to sacrifice. Prices will fall this way as well. We all say we wish there was a better alternative to Uber and Lyft, well if we bail them out, there never will be.

Wheres my " PARTICIPATION CHECK " !

 

[observer]

You and I have had our disagreements, but what I like about you, is that you like to talk about them. I have read some of your stories of your ranch in Mexico, I think you get my message for independence.

My point though is I think people should ask themselves hard questions and be able to criticize themselves.

I said what I said, because even I am guilty of not being prepared. I admit I am one of the people that could use the money too.

Coming out of this, I am going to do things a little differently. I wonder who else shares the same feelings?

I think everyone has become too dependent on government and big business.

It's been a shock to everyone and that's what I've been teaching my kids about this happening. Always be prepared. The shock has been in how rapidly things went down hill.

My oldest son just moved out on the 1st. He and his girlfriend had only been there a week when everything started.

Two weeks later he was laid off from work. Now he's got to buy food, pay bills, pay rent. He was asking me if he should stop paying bills. I said, do you have the money (I knew he did), he said yes. Then pay your bills.

He's got enough to survive a couple months but if people stop paying their bills and hoarding money, things will get worse because more people will be laid off.

The reason I like the ranch is because I can retire and be selfsufficient. It's been a struggle to get everything going and I'm learning a lot but I won't be dependent on Social Security.

Honestly, I wish I was at the ranch this moment but I have a responsibility with my kids.

 

[doyousensehumor]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...0-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

"Almost 40% of American adults wouldn't be able to cover a $400 emergency with cash, savings or a credit-card charge that they could quickly pay off, a Federal Reserve survey finds."

This is one of the things what we have to fix as individuals. As what's apparent in the bailout that still isn't finalized, it can't be counted on.

I think as parents we should teach good money habits.

Edit: you beat me to it while i was typing this

 

[tohunt4me]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...0-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

"Almost 40% of American adults wouldn't be able to cover a $400 emergency with cash, savings or a credit-card charge that they could quickly pay off, a Federal Reserve survey finds."

This is one of the things what we have to fix as individuals. As what's apparent in the bailout that still isn't finalized, it can't be counted on.

I think as parents we should teach good money habits.

It will be 90% after This !

 

[observer]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...0-emergency-expense-federal/story?id=63253846

"Almost 40% of American adults wouldn't be able to cover a $400 emergency with cash, savings or a credit-card charge that they could quickly pay off, a Federal Reserve survey finds."

This is one of the things what we have to fix as individuals. As what's apparent in the bailout that still isn't finalized, it can't be counted on.

I think as parents we should teach good money habits.

Edit: you beat me to it while i was typing this

If things get really bad we could always do as @BadYota says. My son and his GF can always move back here. But I think he and my middle son have got things handled.

My daughter is only 18 and was supposed to graduate this year from High School. She"s the one I'm working on now but she's always been pretty smart and independent.

Things will work out. They may not turn out the way we prefer but things will get better.

 

[B - uberlyftdriver]

NH's governor approved unemployment for gig workers

call your state house

 

[Asificarewhatyoudontthink]

You and I have had our disagreements, but what I like about you, is that you like to talk about them. I have read some of your stories of your ranch in Mexico, I think you get my message for independence.

My point though is I think people should ask themselves hard questions and be able to criticize themselves.

I said what I said, because even I am guilty of not being prepared. I admit I am one of the people that could use the money too.

Coming out of this, I am going to do things a little differently. I wonder who else shares the same feelings?

Yup and that will be the "death rattle" of the economy even if there is a check in every account.
Most people are going to pay only what bills they need to and not buy anything else with that money.
Which is good.
But, following the closure of so many businesses, which is causing a very real recession, it is going to slow economic recovery which, will kill smaller businesses leaving possibly hundreds of thousands of people more on the unemployment rolls than would have been.
This could tip us from a recession right into an actual depression.

Also, to the strictest of "failure is good" and "over spending is bad" please realize (heck go read up on this) our economic booms would not have happened and our country wouldn't even look the same were it not for all those people spending all that money.
We have been a debt driven economy since the late 40's

 

[observer]

Yup and that will be the "death rattle" of the economy even if there is a check in every account.
Most people are going to pay only what bills they need to and not buy anything else with that money.
Which is good.
But, following the closure of so many businesses, which is causing a very real recession, it is going to slow economic recovery which, will kill smaller businesses leaving possibly hundreds of thousands of people more on the unemployment rolls than would have been.
This could tip us from a recession right into an actual depression.

Also, to the strictest of "failure is good" and "over spending is bad" please realize (heck go read up on this) our economic booms would not have happened and our country wouldn't even look the same were it not for all those people spending all that money.
We have been a debt driven economy since the late 40's

That's exactly why people need to get out and spend money.

Failure is good in the sense that people have to realize that you need to build up a cushion for bad times.

I've seen this happen time and again in Mexico every time there's a devaluation.

 

[losiglow]

We don't need a bailout. We need to go back to work. Spend these trillions of $$$'s on helping high risk individuals or those that end up actually getting really sick with their income needs while they self quarantine and get treatment. A $1200 check isn't going to do anything.

The rest of us can live our lives as normal.

 

[doyousensehumor]

We don't need a bailout. We need to go back to work. Spend these trillions of $$$'s on helping high risk individuals or those that end up actually getting really sick with their income needs while they self quarantine and get treatment. A $1200 check isn't going to do anything.

The rest of us can live our lives as normal.

I was outside a moment ago and there's landscapers outside. They were talking about all this. One of them said "I got bills due. I got rent to pay. What am I supposed to do? I want to work."

I got more on what the Common Man is saying right now. I got more on what the passengers are saying right now. What the word on the street is right now. Might start a thread on it.

 

[itsablackmarket]

I'm all for bailing out the workers and letting the companies go bankrupt.

 

[Wolfgang Faust]

You and I have had our disagreements, but what I like about you, is that you like to talk about them. I have read some of your stories of your ranch in Mexico, I think you get my message for independence.

My point though is I think people should ask themselves hard questions and be able to criticize themselves.

I said what I said, because even I am guilty of not being prepared. I admit I am one of the people that could use the money too.

Coming out of this, I am going to do things a little differently. I wonder who else shares the same feelings?

I can go at least six months without income, but I want people like yourself to get an immediate check.

And, I'll happily take one, too

Prostiticians are gonna give money away. Just fix the problems learned from the 2008 debacle.

And Democrats need to act now, stop trying to put green new deal bullshit in there. Nanny Pelousy should be billed for today's stock market loss.
She's a POS.