[Alloverthemap]

Twice in a row now, I've arrived at the pick-up point stunned to see the drop-off is over an hour away. For me, this is good. Took two rides today and made $122. But for others it might not be what they desire and perhaps pax are finding it hard to get rides as a result.

Got me to wondering. Could a pax schedule a local destination and then while you're on your way to pick them up change it to the far more distant one?

 

[OldUncleDave]

I've had pax change the destination after I started the trip, so they can change the destination, or add a stop, at anytime.

But, you can refuse the new destination if you want. Before starting the trip, just cancel. After starting the trip, if they change the destination, you can cancel and give reason for cancel.

I always want the longer trip. Miles and time.

 

[Alloverthemap]

I agree. Always take the trip even if you highly suspect you'll be riding back the same distance empty. One exception is out-of-state, if you can't pick up there. That can be a lot of empty miles with no hope of getting a rider, plus unreimbursable tolls.

Could you check your answer, Dave. The first sentence has a typo in a critical spot rendering it confusing.

 

[theMezz]

How did you make $122?

 

[Legalizeit0]

I am on the Tennessee/Georgia/Alabama line and the out-of-state thing comes in to play a lot.

once I leave Tennessee, I cannot pick up Uber riders. But Lyft, lets me pick up anywhere I’d like, including in other states. while it does not make up for the fact that Lyft is now keeping all of the surge money and refuses to give me time and direction on rides, it does help if I have no option to use Uber.

The minute I cross back into Tennessee, I turn the Uber app back on and always take Uber rides over Lyft rides due to the amount of information given as well as the possibility of receiving surge rates on Uber.

I really hope that one day Lyft will stop it’s policy of hating its drivers. They started out awesome years ago.

 

[Ballard_Driver]

I've had both happen to me before... And I can see where pax might try to trick a driver either way.

I've been given a ping by Uber that shows it's a long trip, SWEET! Get there and the destination is 5 minutes away. I've also got pings that said were short, only to find them to be long.

I think what is happening is pax are changing their destination AFTER they send over the initial ride request. Most of the time I would imagine it's them fixing a mistake, or drunk people changing their minds on whose house they're going to or whatever... But if somebody wants to lure in a driver in a time they think it will be hard to get one, a long trip might do it. Alternatively some people might (incorrectly most of the time) assume a driver doesn't want a super long trip, so could initially order a short one.

Either way, unless I have destination filter on for some reason, it doesn't matter much to me. On the rare occasions there is high surge it might be annoying to THINK you're getting a long trip, only to find it isn't... Which has happened to me... But whatever. This is all a game of averages, so I don't trip on all the small things that are dumb that happen. If I did I'd have had a heart attack by now or my head would have exploded!

 

[FLKeys]

My son was using Uber a lot to get to work. When Uber started up front pricing his ride to work went up several dollars. He realized he could order a ride to a store 1 mile away from his house and on his way to work. After the driver started the trip he would change his destination to work and Uber would revert back to charging him based on time and distance. This saved him a couple dollars every trip.

Does it still work today, no idea. However he still uses that practice when ordering a ride. Does it work if you change the destination after the rider accepted? Don't know he always did it after the driver started the trip.

Point is people figure out things in the app and then use them to their perceived advantage.

 

[Ballard_Driver]

It definitely switches to time and distance if you change destinations, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. Good trick actually! I'll have to try that one myself as a rider

 

[Seamus]

My son was using Uber a lot to get to work. When Uber started up front pricing his ride to work went up several dollars. He realized he could order a ride to a store 1 mile away from his house and on his way to work. After the driver started the trip he would change his destination to work and Uber would revert back to charging him based on time and distance. This saved him a couple dollars every trip.

Does it still work today, no idea. However he still uses that practice when ordering a ride. Does it work if you change the destination after the rider accepted? Don't know he always did it after the driver started the trip.

Point is people figure out things in the app and then use them to their perceived advantage.

Bingo! Also savvy pax can use this to beat surge pricing as well under the old multiplier surge. Around where I live, drivers won't take people into NYC because you can't pick up and it can be expensive to get back with tolls etc.etc.. This is one way they try to get around it.

Destination change is one way savvy pax have been manipulating rides for years. Of course there are always those that make an honest mistake. I once had a ride going North on a DF heading toward my house and they turned around and changed to South into a bad neighborhood in the Bronx. I got double screwed. I pulled over to put them out and they pony'd up a $20 bill so I continued.

 

[flattenmycurve]

Scammy Uber stopped showing 45+ minutes a couple months back got 2 airport rematches clearly 40+ miles away 70+ miles from my homebase that used to show them

Just show the details the tricks only work on the dummies I'm sure there were a hundred lot lizards who would of loved the rides as they live out there or close

Only interested in rematches going towards home base at .60 a mile I'm not deadheading an hour plus lmao don't even turn on x till I drop off an XL just in case I hit the lotto to get a rematch home, now this pandemic has me doing x rides to airport as they least pay legal wages nothing less than 20 miles do though and they do nothing but complain to try and scam ride credits I hope they get Kung flu trying to save a a few pennies

 

[Cdub2k]

My son was using Uber a lot to get to work. When Uber started up front pricing his ride to work went up several dollars. He realized he could order a ride to a store 1 mile away from his house and on his way to work. After the driver started the trip he would change his destination to work and Uber would revert back to charging him based on time and distance. This saved him a couple dollars every trip.

Does it still work today, no idea. However he still uses that practice when ordering a ride. Does it work if you change the destination after the rider accepted? Don't know he always did it after the driver started the trip.

Point is people figure out things in the app and then use them to their perceived advantage.

It still works and I'd recommend everyone to do the same thing. Upfront Pricing is a built in scam. Ordering a min fare ride and then changing it during the ride ensures that you are going to pay the posted Base Fare/BookingFee/miles/minutes/ rates. The Upfront quote is usually higher than what you'd normally pay.

 

[ohnos]

Yup this happened to me in past they had to pick up an item before final destination they only put one till they got in car and changed it as soon as I started ride.

 

[Alloverthemap]

How did you make $122?

Two $40-plus rides and one $30 tip.

 

[Demon]

Twice in a row now, I've arrived at the pick-up point stunned to see the drop-off is over an hour away. For me, this is good. Took two rides today and made $122. But for others it might not be what they desire and perhaps pax are finding it hard to get rides as a result.

Got me to wondering. Could a pax schedule a local destination and then while you're on your way to pick them up change it to the far more distant one?

Expect to see more of this until regulations are put in place so that drivers can't refuse.

 

[DoubleDee]

How did you make $122?

Must have added some "extra services" at the end of the ride.

 

[flattenmycurve]

Expect to see more of this until regulations are put in place so that drivers can't refuse.

If I can't refuse that means regulations on minimum fares, minimum per miles, minimum per minutes which means EVERY ride pays a legal wage, my gas & maintenance is reimbursed, I get soc security credits, fico, unemployment, workers comp protection, time in a half over 40 hours, vacation time, sick pay, etc etc etc

Bring it on they can't have it both ways,

They can't threaten, punish, "reward" drivers who refuse rides instead of working for free because they figured out 3rd grade math or deprioritize them while giving math flunkies more rides because they're willing to work for illegal wages

They'll also be regulated so closest driver gets ping otherwise they are discriminating

Their top 5 markets which make most of their money la, San Fran, NYC, Brazil, London already been banned, regulated because they won't follow the law & they're violating those regulations as we speak even during a pandemic where many markets are seeing a 70% decline in business & now there's literally no driver "support" as if they ever offered anything but tag a log speakers who speak English like a 5 year old that can't do anything from 2000 miles away but lie off a script and place you on hold till you hang up & call it "support"

"Independent contractors/ business owners" have the right to accept decline/refuse any contract they want after being able to do due diligence on them. That's basic contract law & Uber Lyft also violates those laws daily

Shilly shill shill shill

 

[goobered]

When high surge events let out pax who want a long trip to get out of the area can't get picked up. So they put in a fake destination and change it later. It's a sh!t thing to do IMO.

 

[Alloverthemap]

When high surge events let out pax who want a long trip to get out of the area can't get picked up. So they put in a fake destination and change it later. It's a sh!t thing to do IMO.

But, to clarify, can they do this while you're en route to them?

Must have added some "extra services" at the end of the ride.

No, it was that rare occasion where right from the start they offer a big tip at the end. You're waiting for the other shoe to drop (namely running them around town when you get there), but in this case it didn't. Pull into driveway and girl (who I did compliment on being beautiful) hands me the promised $30.

So is the finest compliment a man can give a woman an "extra service"? Probably, but I don't think it was what won the day for me here.

 

[DriverMark]

But, to clarify, can they do this while you're en route to them?

I believe so, yes.

 

[Demon]

If I can't refuse that means regulations on minimum fares, minimum per miles, minimum per minutes which means EVERY ride pays a legal wage, my gas & maintenance is reimbursed, I get soc security credits, fico, unemployment, workers comp protection, time in a half over 40 hours, vacation time, sick pay, etc etc etc

Bring it on they can't have it both ways,

They can't threaten, punish, "reward" drivers who refuse rides instead of working for free because they figured out 3rd grade math or deprioritize them while giving math flunkies more rides because they're willing to work for illegal wages

They'll also be regulated so closest driver gets ping otherwise they are discriminating

Their top 5 markets which make most of their money la, San Fran, NYC, Brazil, London already been banned, regulated because they won't follow the law & they're violating those regulations as we speak even during a pandemic where many markets are seeing a 70% decline in business & now there's literally no driver "support" as if they ever offered anything but tag a log speakers who speak English like a 5 year old that can't do anything from 2000 miles away but lie off a script and place you on hold till you hang up & call it "support"

"Independent contractors/ business owners" have the right to accept decline/refuse any contract they want after being able to do due diligence on them. That's basic contract law & Uber Lyft also violates those laws daily

Shilly shill shill shill

It would be a law, it wouldn't change drivers status. NYC already has some laws in place about what rides can be refused.