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It doesn't explain why you're sitting next to eight hotels, but yet you're getting pings 8 plus miles away.

On a Monday morning

At 3:30am

With people standing outside the hotels waiting for an Uber to pick them up from 8 Miles away.
 

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With people standing outside the hotels waiting for an Uber to pick them up from 8 Miles away.
Actually, this is entirely consistent with and explained by batch matching. Example: If their match is 8 miles east of them and yours is 8 miles west of you and there aren't any available closer drivers within 7 miles (well, actually time) of your match in any direction. None of us have the requisite data to second guess it.

It doesn't explain why you're sitting next to eight hotels, but yet you're getting pings 8 plus miles away.

On a Monday morning

At 3:30am
Virtually every day that I'm out at that time of day, long pick-ups are very common. It's been like this since 2016. Nothing weird at all.
 

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I understand that they're trying to keep the pickup times low by sending the closest available driver even if it's 8 Miles away, to go pick somebody up. Even though there's riders a quarter mile away that have not been on the platform as long waiting for a pickup.

So by making the driver travel this long distance for the pickup, it gets tiring and expensive for the driver. So they get burned out and don't want to show up on the platform unless it's busy.

To help retain and get more drivers engaged for longer on the platforms, a daisy chain system would be more beneficial to the passenger and the driver.

So the new driver thinks hey this is pretty cool I got short pick up times and I'm staying busy versus long pick up times and mediocre busy. Well the new driver's happy with the short pickup times and staying busy and tells his friend. So now he gets involved with it and it gets more drivers engaged overall at any given time instead of just sparsely covering the map with five drivers in 2000 square miles of area..

I do think the long pick up times in the short money per ride is what keeps a lot of guys from engaging the platform for a longer period of time.
 

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Even though there's riders a quarter mile away that have not been on the platform as long waiting for a pickup.
You don't have a way to verify this.

So by making the driver travel this long distance for the pickup, it gets tiring and expensive for the driver. So they get burned out and don't want to show up on the platform unless it's busy.
So, what about the other rider waiting and other driver sitting idle in my example? Now they're 16 miles apart. Do you assume they'll both be elated if matched or super pumped if not matched? How do you feel as the other driver getting a 16 mile away ping or perhaps no ping at all and just waiting for who knows how long for the next one? I don't do pings from my home so all of my online time is away from home, so I'd be pissed about a shit offer that smells like every Lyft offer.

Actually, this is entirely consistent with and explained by batch matching. Example: If their match is 8 miles east of them and yours is 8 miles west of you and there aren't any available closer drivers within 7 miles (well, actually time) of your match in any direction. None of us have the requisite data to second guess it.
 

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You don't have a way to verify this.

So, what about the other rider waiting and other driver sitting idle in my example? Now they're 16 miles apart. Do you assume they'll both be elated if matched or super pumped if not matched? How do you feel as the other driver getting a 16 mile away ping or perhaps no ping at all and just waiting for who knows how long for the next one? I don't do pings from my home so all of my online time is away from home, so I'd be pissed about a shit offer that smells like every Lyft offer.
I would say that falls along the lines of uber doesn't give a shit about his driver so why would they care how they feel about it. But I understand your point.

I really do believe that the lack of drivers is because of the length of the pickup each time.

Like you stated, and I do the same thing, I sit at home and wait for something close before I activate go mode. I may have 25 pings before I get the one that's decent close and they're profitable.

So those other 25 rides are still sitting there, and I'm taking one basically out of order order because it fits my criteria.

So I would think Uber would find a way to make that criteria a little bit more flexible, to pick up more passengers instead of cherry picking ones that are actually the criteria the driver is looking for.

Retention in this gig thing is horrid. There has to be a better way to keep the drivers engaged and on the platform longer even when it's slow time.
 

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So by making the driver travel this long distance for the pickup, it gets tiring and expensive for the driver.
Your comfort and expense has no influence on the dispatch system.

It's about lowering wait times for the customer.

If sending you to the futher pax and someone else to the one you're closest to means fewer total waiting minutes. That's what happens. Better to have 2 pax wait 12 minutes total 8 & 4 Than have them wait 14 minutes (1 & 13)

I get what you're saying but uber doesn't give a rat's ass.
 

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You know the bribes suck here.lol

40 trips , $35,

And they cap our boost at $6. Mostly around $2.

I haven't seen a surge over $8 except at the airport in months. Most I've seen at the airport is $12 on the map.
Mine too. $35 for 50!

No bribe, no drive. Hell, I barely drive when the bribes are good.

I don't think I've done 50 trips in a week in 4 or 5 years. I don't think I'll ever do 50 in a half a week.
 

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hash out attack plans all night long, but it only falls on deaf ears.
Making plans for a multi billion dollar operation without even one half of 1% of the data, computational power, and human capital? Do you really think you know better or do you just want us nerds here to believe that you do?

40 trips , $35,

And they cap our boost at $6. Mostly around $2.
Y'all have reached nearly perfect ant-customer equilibrium! Looking good! Maybe your local job market sucks bad and that's leading directly to so many people to take up and stay in the anting biz.
 

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Do you really think you know better or do you just want us nerds here to believe that you do?
Well what I believe is there has to be a better way. And last time I checked my opinion or anybody else's for that matter, are free to express it anyway that we choose. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant. from what I understand from life experiences, expressing your opinion is how things are discussed.

And as far as making plans for a multi-million dollar company that I don't own, did you miss the paragraph several posts above it how no matter what we say falls on deaf ears anyway?
 

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there has to be a better way.
Lil Troy wholeheartedly agrees!
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Wanna be a baller, shot caller

Twenty-inch blades on the Impala

Call her, gettin' laid tonight

Swisha rolled tight, got sprayed by Ike

I hit the highway, making money the fly way

But there's got to be a better way!

A better way, better way, yeah

big baller
 

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Lil Troy wholeheartedly agrees!
Code:
Wanna be a baller, shot caller

Twenty-inch blades on the Impala

Call her, gettin' laid tonight

Swisha rolled tight, got sprayed by Ike

I hit the highway, making money the fly way

But there's got to be a better way!

A better way, better way, yeah

big baller
That's exactly the response I expected from you.
 
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