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Typical statements by the self-proclaimed Patrician class who think that just riding in someone's car or sitting at someone's table is tip enough.
Just a bunch of self obsessed, genetically inferior pukes.
"Well Travis says".... Bullshit.
Travis only has the fleecing gene that only knows how to rip off people who have their livelihoods tied up in his ventures.
 

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If you make a good impression, people are going to tip you anyway!!! And, if they don't have cash you get 5 stars and a comment "I wish I could have tipped"...sometimes a verbal tip and 5 stars are good enough....now reality...SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
 

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Well said Ashton. Designed experience not to tip.
What makes you believe : 'There is no need to tip'? If you were a soldier in the Crusades would you have believed the priest telling you, 'there is no need for a Bible to be printed in English'? Do you believe Democrats that say 'there is no need to vote Gop' ? Do you believe Republicans that say there is no need to vote for Democrats? Do you believe FDR in 1933 saying 'there is no need for an American to own more than $100 worth of gold coins? Do you believe Darwinists that say, 'there is no need of fossils that prove evolution in the land of the living?'
 

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What makes you believe : 'There is no need to tip'? If you were a soldier in the Crusades would you have believed the priest telling you, 'there is no need for a Bible to be printed in English'? Do you believe Democrats that say 'there is no need to vote Gop' ? Do you believe Republicans that say there is no need to vote for Democrats? Do you believe FDR in 1933 saying 'there is no need for an American to own more than $100 worth of gold coins? Do you believe Darwinists that say, 'there is no need of fossils that prove evolution in the land of the living?'
Because all those things are even remotely similar to this situation. There is nothing to "believe" here. There are just obvious plain to see facts. Fact is Uber advertises that the fare price is FULL compensation. Fact is Drivers KNOW this policy and continue to work with Uber despite knowing that. Fact is drivers are pissed at passengers for not caring that they don't like said policy. Fact is passengers are not involved in the dispute between drivers and Uber. Fact is drivers want passengers involved because they can't seem to organize themselves against Uber and harassing the passenger seems to be the easiest solution.
 

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Because all those things are even remotely similar to this situation. There is nothing to "believe" here. There are just obvious plain to see facts. Fact is Uber advertises that the fare price is FULL compensation. Fact is Drivers KNOW this policy and continue to work with Uber despite knowing that. Fact is drivers are pissed at passengers for not caring that they don't like said policy. Fact is passengers are not involved in the dispute between drivers and Uber. Fact is drivers want passengers involved because they can't seem to organize themselves against Uber and harassing the passenger seems to be the easiest solution.
You'd make a great uber spokesman. Since you don't drive, you're in no position to give out sage advice to the drivers. So disagree all you want. I hope I don't ever get you as pax or any customer.
 

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You'd make a great uber spokesman. Since you don't drive, you're in no position to give out sage advice to the drivers. So disagree all you want. I hope I don't ever get you as pax or any customer.
Like I said, take my advice or not, that is your decision. Considering my advice is to either organize so you can actually get something done or if not, don't stick around and get raped by this company, I don't see how that is bad advice but keep doing what you are doing. It is better for my bottom line anyway.
 

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Because all those things are even remotely similar to this situation. There is nothing to "believe" here. There are just obvious plain to see facts. Fact is Uber advertises that the fare price is FULL compensation. Fact is Drivers KNOW this policy and continue to work with Uber despite knowing that. Fact is drivers are pissed at passengers for not caring that they don't like said policy. Fact is passengers are not involved in the dispute between drivers and Uber. Fact is drivers want passengers involved because they can't seem to organize themselves against Uber and harassing the passenger seems to be the easiest solution.
So you believe there is no need to tip, just because and only because, Uber says so. How about if Uber says no portion of the compensation is designated as tip. Which they do. Or when someone tweets Uber they feel bad that they didn't have cash to tip their Uber driver and Uber responds with, if you didn't tip your driver with cash, you didn't tip your driver. They don't do that, they respond with there is no need to tip.
 

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So you believe there is no need to tip, just because and only because, Uber says so. How about if Uber says no portion of the compensation is designated as tip. Which they do. Or when someone tweets Uber they feel bad that they didn't have cash to tip their Uber driver and Uber responds with, if you didn't tip your driver with cash, you didn't tip your driver. They don't do that, they respond with there is no need to tip.
Yes, absolutely. I believe there is no need (societal expectation) to tip because I am using a service which is telling me, and the driver, that there will be no tip. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. Restaurants and other conventionally tipped positions are a little bit different because there is the expectation of a tip by both the patron and the waitstaff. There should be NO such exception when using Uber as it is clearly advertised that the automatic charge to your cc is all you should expect to pay. If a resturant had a sign which said "no tipping required" clear as day, and the waitstaff knew that and continued to work there, I wouldn't care why, I wouldn't have any real issue not tipping there either. As I said, I understand that the drivers don't like this, but don't go making the passengers seem like the bad guys because YOU, the drivers, continue to work for a service with a culture you don't approve of.
 

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Yes, absolutely. I believe there is no need (societal expectation) to tip because I am using a service which is telling me, and the driver, that there will be no tip. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. Restaurants and other conventionally tipped positions are a little bit different because there is the expectation of a tip by both the patron and the waitstaff. There should be NO such exception when using Uber as it is clearly advertised that the automatic charge to your cc is all you should expect to pay. If a resturant had a sign which said "no tipping required" clear as day, and the waitstaff knew that and continued to work there, I wouldn't care why, I wouldn't have any real issue not tipping there either. As I said, I understand that the drivers don't like this, but don't go making the passengers seem like the bad guys because YOU, the drivers, continue to work for a service with a culture you don't approve of.
Uber does not tell the driver there will be no tip. Uber tells the driver that they will not collect tips on the driver's behalf with UberTaxi being an exception. Uber confuses new users with the select a gratuity for UberTaxi when they are new to the process. When asked point blank about it, Uber does not say, if you did not tip your driver with cash, you did not tip your driver.
 

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Uber does not tell the driver there will be no tip. Uber tells the driver that they will not collect tips on the driver's behalf with UberTaxi being an exception. Uber confuses new users with the select a gratuity for UberTaxi when they are new to the process. When asked point blank about it, Uber does not say, if you did not tip your driver with cash, you did not tip your driver.
We all can read between the lines. They don't collect tips. The verbiage in all the agreements alludes to no tips. It is meant as a non tipping, cashless service. We all KNOW this. To pretend otherwise is just silly at this point.
 
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