[Mr. Rideshare Man]

Dylan Wechsler, Benzinga News Staff Writer
August 16, 2022 2:45 PM

Ride-hailing service Lyft Inc. has teamed up with Motional to bring self-driving taxis to cities around the nation, starting with Las Vegas. The San Francisco-based company has unveiled an upgrade to an existing service that will allow users to hail a self-driving taxi on and around the iconic Las Vegas strip.
While this is an exciting upgrade, the company noted on Tuesday that in every vehicle, there will be "Two Safety Drivers” who can take control of the car at any time if something goes wrong.

Benzinga’s News Take: While Lyft’s upgrade is an exciting step in the right direction, it seems that companies are A ways away from fully autonomous vehicles/taxis. Yet, companies like Waymo have proven that the technology is possible and driverless taxis will one day become the norm.

 

[Emptynesst]

Day late and a dollar short , 10 th thread on this topic so far

 

[ObeyTheNumbers]

Those that are concerned about robot taxis taking their ridesharing jobs usually haven't been ridesharing for long.

Just think about all what a human driver does that the robot cannot do. Bird dropped a sh*t on the hood of the car while on the way to get a pax, robot can't do squat, the human stops and wipes it off.

It will be a novelty service in select controlled areas until one kills or injuries a human and that will be that.

Yes 20 or 30 years down the road, but not anytime soon to worry about it.

And why two drivers? Is there two sets of brakes and steering wheels? Who overrules whom?

Three things fighting over control of the vehicle during an accident is quite scary. 😱

BTW, what driver is responsible for wiping the bird crap off the hood? 😁

 

[Mr. Rideshare Man]

Those that are concerned about robot taxis taking their ridesharing jobs usually haven't been ridesharing for long.

Just think about all what a human driver does that the robot cannot do. Bird dropped a sh*t on the hood of the car while on the way to get a pax, robot can't do squat, the human stops and wipes it off.

It will be a novelty service in select controlled areas until one kills or injuries a human and that will be that.

Yes 20 or 30 years down the road, but not anytime soon to worry about it.

And why two drivers? Is there two sets of brakes and steering wheels? Who overrules whom?

Three things fighting over control of the vehicle during an accident is quite scary. 😱

BTW, what driver is responsible for wiping the bird crap off the hood? 😁

 

[Atavar]

But if I want to have a 2nd safety driver in my vehicle I get deactivated.
How the heck much are they going to charge to pay for two drivers and a $100k car? It’ll be a $300 ride down the strip.

 

[Mr. Rideshare Man]

Good point, I totally agree it will be years before this happens.
I guaranty someone will get hurt in a crash. This will halt their progress.
Nothing to worry about for years of Ride Share driving!!!

 

[Donatello]

Let me give you an unfixable approach to self driving.

How do you make a self driving car not hard brake as the guy in front hard brakes?

Ever been in that situation? highway moving at 70 mph suddenly guy in front hard brakes you almost crash or hard brake yourself, human solution to that is cautious driving, by looking at the cars in front if they are braking, you slow yourself up or gain distance when you know everything is coming to a full stop so you can brake softly, this is something no AI will ever be able to fix.

A. Because it cannot monitor the traffic in front.

B. It lacks common sense, it lacks the ability to use foresight.

Lyft is only looking to call more suckers to invest and they will jeopardize multiple lawsuits from it just to get a greedy sucker hooked.

 

[Mr. Rideshare Man]

Let me give you an unfixable approach to self driving.

How do you make a self driving car not hard brake as the guy in front hard brakes?

Ever been in that situation? highway moving at 70 mph suddenly guy in front hard brakes you almost crash or hard brake yourself, human solution to that is cautious driving, by looking at the cars in front if they are braking, you slow yourself up or gain distance when you know everything is coming to a full stop so you can brake softly, this is something no AI will ever be able to fix.

A. Because it cannot monitor the traffic in front.

B. It lacks common sense, it lacks the ability to use foresight.

Lyft is only looking to call more suckers to invest and they will jeopardize multiple lawsuits from it just to get a greedy sucker hooked.

 

[Mr. Rideshare Man]

I'm not concerned now, but It's going to happen years down the road,

 

[NOXDriver]

Good point, I totally agree it will be years before this happens.
I guaranty someone will get hurt in a crash. This will halt their progress.
Nothing to worry about for years of Ride Share driving!!!

Uber has the first confirmed kill with an autonomous car... even WITH a safety driver! Go Uber!

Many have had crashes, but Uber was first to market with a dead pedestrian.

 

[Mr. Rideshare Man]

Uber has the first confirmed kill with an autonomous car... even WITH a safety driver! Go Uber!

Many have had crashes, but Uber was first to market with a dead pedestrian.

SAD

 

[Atom guy]

Not worried about driverless cars at all. At the moment they have zero ability to drive anywhere without a connection to the servers. GM's Cruise cars have just been stopping in the middle of the street when they lose connection, to the extent that no one at Cruise can make them move and they end up getting towed. Waymo's cars have fleets of human rescuers always nearby to come solve issues. The Lyft CEO even said years ago that their cars wouldn't be able to go to every specific address, and passengers would have to meet the cars. Never mind bad weather, destructive passengers, construction detours, etc, etc, etc.

 

[Schmanthony]

I've read potholes are (currently) problematic for self driving cars. They seem unable to distinguish them from dark patches on the pavement or shadows.

 

[mikes424]

Another problem that has to be overcome is this. At busy airports the drop off and pick up locations are a zoo. Drivers stop where ever they can, cut in and out and block other cars. It will be interesting to see how self driving cars deal with it.

 

[uberebu]

Those that are concerned about robot taxis taking their ridesharing jobs usually haven't been ridesharing for long.

Just think about all what a human driver does that the robot cannot do. Bird dropped a sh*t on the hood of the car while on the way to get a pax, robot can't do squat, the human stops and wipes it off.

It will be a novelty service in select controlled areas until one kills or injuries a human and that will be that.

Yes 20 or 30 years down the road, but not anytime soon to worry about it.

And why two drivers? Is there two sets of brakes and steering wheels? Who overrules whom?

Three things fighting over control of the vehicle during an accident is quite scary. 😱

BTW, what driver is responsible for wiping the bird crap off the hood? 😁

Do you really think the killing or injury of a human by a Robo-taxi is going to be an issue if they let human-driven vehicles do it all day long currently?

We humans kill, injure, and mangle people all day long with cars. Where is that outrage? If humans can get away with it I imagine software will be allowed to as well.

 

[uberebu]

Another problem that has to be overcome is this. At busy airports the drop off and pick up locations are a zoo. Drivers stop where ever they can, cut in and out and block other cars. It will be interesting to see how self driving cars deal with it.

They will simply make special lanes for that where human drivers can't turn it into a zoo.

 

[uberebu]

I've read potholes are (currently) problematic for self driving cars. They seem unable to distinguish them from dark patches on the pavement or shadows.

We humans miss them too. Yet we still keep on keeping on...8)

 

[painfreepc]

Do you really think the killing or injury of a human by a Robo-taxi is going to be an issue if they let human-driven vehicles do it all day long currently?

We humans kill, injure, and mangle people all day long with cars. Where is that outrage? If humans can get away with it I imagine software will be allowed to as well.

I thought the main reason for self-driving cars was to reduce the death caused by us human drivers, so you think it's going to be acceptable for a self-driving cars to have even a small amount of accidents that humans have, run over pedestrians at a crowded airport are crowded music event, run over a child that runs between two cars parked on the street you think that's going to be acceptable you think the Public's not going to be outraged and how about the human beings that those self-driving cars replaced and then the self-driving cars are going to turn around and have accidents the same as humans what are you smoking

 

[uberebu]

I thought the main reason for self-driving cars was to reduce the death caused by us human drivers, so you think it's going to be acceptable for a self-driving cars to have even a small amount of accidents that humans have, run over pedestrians at a crowded airport are crowded music event, run over a child that runs between two cars parked on the street you think that's going to be acceptable you think the Public's not going to be outraged and how about the human beings that those self-driving cars replaced and then the self-driving cars are going to turn around and have accidents the same as humans what are you smoking

You should really be wondering why more humans aren't outraged by the number of human drivers that do this every hour of every day. Where is THAT public outrage???

Yet you stand here aghast at something that "MIGHT" happen? What are you smoking???

There will always be accidents. There is a reason they don't call them purposes.

 

[painfreepc]

You should really be wondering why more humans aren't outraged by the number of human drivers that do this every hour of every day. Where is THAT public outrage???

Yet you stand here aghast at something that "MIGHT" happen? What are you smoking???

There will always be accidents. There is a reason they don't call them purposes.

the whole reason for this technology was supposed to be to make road safer, just gonna turn out to be to take jobs from humans so they don't have to pay employees So good luck In about 20 30 40 years When society starts looking like the scientific movies where no one has jobs, this technology is going to affect all industries, it's already been announced a major car manufacturers already laid off thousands of workers because they need to hire others to concentrate on electric car manufacturing.