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It feels like the heat maps are now just a form of manipulation. It has an uncanny knack for being every I'm not located. PB can be glowing bright red for hours but once I get there it's gone. Then once I log out and start leaving the area low and behold it's suddenly glowing again. I get ride requests that always seem to be one hexagon outside the surge zone. The airport was showing 1.9 surge for hours on end until the moment I breached the area where you can receive a ride request.

I get the feeling that we aren't all seeing the same heat maps at the same time. I think it might be an interesting little experiment for multiple drivers to screenshot the map at specific times throughout the day to see if we are all seeing the same maps or if Uber is using the map to manipulate drivers and keep actual surge drives to a minimum.
 

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Once you enter the area then you are another driver to meet the demand, which reduces the surge. Also a lot of the time when you are driving into the surge, so are other drivers which brings down the surge as well.
 

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If you can't make it to a surge in under 5 minutes don't bother.

The heat map is just a display of the data that being updated by uber onto the server. Sometimes it lags or stops refreshing. wait patiently for it to refresh or close and reopen the app might help. Slow networks and poor signal can be the culprits, probably not the uber puppet masters this time.

Stop rolling around all day with your app online if your looking for surge because that kills the surge. Stay offline and position yourself in an area you know will surge at that time. wait patiently, picking up surfing will help you learn to wait for surge. When the surge hits 2x go online and you'll probably get a decent ride or you might not. no big deal. when it drops below 1.7x go offline, look at the pax app to see how many drivers are online, they will start disappearing as it the surge drops. Because they didn't get a ride either. Look at t he rider app to tell you how many drivers are in an area. If you only see 1 or 2 other cars and you're in a good spot chances are it's gonna surge.

I hate it when there's one guy online in an area that will surge as soon as theres NO UBERX AVAILABLE. That fool is undercutting himself. Whenever you're online you should always be aware of how many other driver are around and where they are. Position is key, the map is a chessboard. If you see it go to no uber available start requesting rides and you can prime the surge. If some idiot takes your 1x pool request just cancel them no big deal. THen Laugh at what a dope that guy is for not paying attention to the fact that no ubers were available in the area he just went online in. So stupid that's how you know to just wait a few more minutes for surge.

If you do this at busy hours you will drive less and make more.
 

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It feels like the heat maps are now just a form of manipulation. It has an uncanny knack for being every I'm not located. PB can be glowing bright red for hours but once I get there it's gone. Then once I log out and start leaving the area low and behold it's suddenly glowing again. I get ride requests that always seem to be one hexagon outside the surge zone. The airport was showing 1.9 surge for hours on end until the moment I breached the area where you can receive a ride request.

I get the feeling that we aren't all seeing the same heat maps at the same time. I think it might be an interesting little experiment for multiple drivers to screenshot the map at specific times throughout the day to see if we are all seeing the same maps or if Uber is using the map to manipulate drivers and keep actual surge drives to a minimum.
The best way to to tell if the surge is true is to check the passenger app
 

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There's a lot of delay between the ACTUAL surge price and what you see on the driver app. You can toggle to a different tab and back to force the map to redraw.

Anyway, driver specific maps are unlikely. That'd mean they'd need to be manipulating the pax app too and they match (close enough for government work).

But yeah, your presence reduces surge.
 

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The best way to to tell if the surge is true is to check the passenger app
With the new app, I don't see where it shows the surge pricing. Just the total fare.

I use an app called "Surge" to tell me how much the surge is where I'm currently at. I used to get data from around my area but Uber stopped them from posting it. They are trying to get it back but for now, I'll just let the app tell me when it's surging and how much the surge rate is. Works real well.
 

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With the new app, I don't see where it shows the surge pricing. Just the total fare.

I use an app called "Surge" to tell me how much the surge is where I'm currently at. I used to get data from around my area but Uber stopped them from posting it. They are trying to get it back but for now, I'll just let the app tell me when it's surging and how much the surge rate is. Works real well.
You open the passenger app, clicking the uberx car logo, and it should say eta, max size, and minimum fare, hit minimum fare and it will show you how much the mileage is for the surge
 

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I don't drive with app on and logged in since I'm not covered during that time. But even when I just have the app open, not logged in but driving, it seems to be reacting to my position. For example on 4th of July I get down to PB and the surge that was there all day is suddenly gone. So I log out and start driving out of the area and the surge "chases" me all the way past quallcomm on the 8 west.
 
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