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Anyone with a pending traffic citation?

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Over the years I've gotten pretty good at getting out of citations.

I have a running theory with SD Superior Courts that has got me 4 dismissals in a row, including with CHP - but I don't know if it works for me because I have something of a rap sheet at the court, or if I've discovered a glitch in the matrix.

Anyway, for this to work you need to have a pending citation, that you have NOT fulfilled your notice to appear date on (You got the citation, but you haven't done anything with it yet).

I don't want to publicize it but I do want to share it. DM me.
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I don't get citations anymore. I grew up.
The phrase is, "Don't do the crime if you can't pay the fine/do the time"

I exercise the 3rd option. I do the crime and don't pay the fine with impunity.
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Can someone still drive Uber/Lyft if they get a speeding ticket? I've been pretty lucky since my last one in 2014, before I drove rideshare.
Yes, for simple speeding. IIRC it varies by state, but CA Uber will accept up to 3 minor moving violations in 2 years. So your California stop, simple speeding, etc.

I'm not sure what it considers not minor. I'm going to guess exhibition of speed, wet reckless, etc. all count.
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I don't speed. There's a lot to be said for just cruising along at 60mph in the "slow lane", while the BMWs / Audis / giant pickup truck drivers / etc tie themselves up in knots in the "fast lane" driving 5 feet behind each others' bumpers trying to intimidate each other to get out of the way and generally driving like dooshes.

So you drive at 85mph and get to Home Depot or the mall 10 minutes faster. Big deal. What difference to your life are 10 minutes going to make? What are you going to do in those 10 minutes? Find the cure for cancer?
Nobody's saying you have to speed if you don't want to. I want operate my vehicle in which I feel is safe and expedient. That the law may disagree is between me and the justice system.

Regarding your practical question. Did you know that male Uber drivers make 7% more than female Uber drivers?

It's because male Uber drivers, on average drive faster, so end up with more fares and paid miles. Some of it also has to do with being willing to drive at night, but lead foot is a big factor.

Yes, so far nobody has said that people have to speed if they don't want to. This is clear simply by reading all of the posts in this thread. This is of no relevance, however. Similarly, nobody has said that people have to eat bananas if they don't want to, for example. There is little point in listing all of the things that nobody has said so far in a discussion.
Multiple studies show that speeding is a factor in approximately one third of motoring fatalities. I would imagine that the speeding drivers who caused these deaths did not think, "I am operating my vehicle in a non-safe manner" before they were injured or died. The point is that believing that one is driving safely has little to do with whether or not one is driving safely. If you speed then you are statistically at higher risk of injury or death, or causing injury or death to others. It's as simple as that.
But evidently it is not only between you and the justice system, though - you posted your speeding exploits on a public forum for comment.

You don't get to post your actions on a public forum and then say that it's got nothing to do with the people who comment on it. That's not the way this works.
It is common knowledge that breaking the law and committing unsafe acts can allow one to make more money than people who do not. Government benefit fraud, tax evasion, street robbery and many others come to mind. I don't see how this point strengthens your argument.
On page 5 of the study the claim is made that speeding accounts for "... nearly half of the gender pay gap [in rideshare]". So, speeding nets speeding drivers around 3% more pay. For me personally, the risk:reward ratio in the increase in risk of hurting myself or others, damaging my car, getting a speeding ticket, having my insurance rate go up for just 3% extra money is certainly not worth it.

It's similar to what I told my son when he started driving. I had the drunk driving talk with him. The way I explained it was that if he drives drunk instead of catching an Uber or taxi, on the plus side, he would save himself maybe 20 bucks. On the risk side, if he crashed drunk and and killed someone, he would be going away to prison for approximately 5 - 10 years. So the risk:reward would be $20 savings against 5 - 10 years in jail. I told him that if he wanted to risk that amount of jail time, then he should make sure it was worth it with a crime that could net him $500,000 to $1,000,000 plus. Not for 20 bucks.

Now, the risks of speeding are, of course, much lower than committing a major crime. But so are the rewards. Everyone's attitude to risk is different but, for me personally, the risk of doing it for 3% makes no sense.
You're right at the macro level. Most people overestimate their driving ability. The problem with applying macro stats to micro decision making is you have to adjust for how diluted the data gets. The 'average' male uber driver makes 7% more and 3% is attributed to speed, but by definition an average comes from people who are above and below average. Speed limits are loosely related to 'average' driving ability and capability of drivers and machines in the context of a specific road. But the, problem comes when 99% of people assume they're above average. So, for me I look to other factors. Was speed related to any accidents I've ever had? No. Do my Uber passengers mind? At 4.98 and years since last safety flag, probably not.

Fundamentally, I just don't have an issue with how I drive - that's why I do it. Basically a truism. I'm unconvinced that there's anything wrong with what I do for any practical considerations.

On top of that, your enforcers of the law don't really care either. That's why they frequently don't show up to court. The city/district attorneys don't care; that's why they don't respond to legal processes regarding infractions. The courts don't care - commissioners just try to clear their dockets as fast as possible.

Perspective only matters when you have the power/ability to bring about consequences that someone who violates those perspectives cares about. The state, collectively, from lawmakers, law enforcement, and justice system - have really detached their interests from yours and the Vehicle Code exists primarily as a revenue scheme. This is why California has 'infractions' vs Misdemeanor traffic crimes.
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This might be a silly question, as I'm not much of a car guy. Is it good for the car to have it on cruise control frequently? I only ask because sometimes I catch myself going a few mph over and occasionally get the notifications from Uber.
Doesn't hurt the car.
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