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Hello fellow drivers,

My car is a 2004 Lexus LS 430 with approximately 150k+ miles. No major repairs throughout ownership. Excluding wear and tear such as brakes, tyres and suspension, minor ones are the door actuators, oil leak (engine gasket) and cruise control. Now, I am hit with a $6000 bill for the transmission. Anyone with the ability of making logical judgement would sell the car in the blink of an eye but my heart often overrides the brain.

A few months ago, the car was sluggish occasionally going in reverse but once it was given enough time to warm up, it reversed without any problems. Fast forward to last week, instead of difficulty in reverse, the car was sluggish to accelerate. Again, the car drove fine after a few minutes. Two days ago, the car did not move upon start up unless the engine hit 2000 rpm, which is ridiculous. My experience is that the car only hits 2000 rpm or above when travelling 60 mph+.

Although as ignorant as I am, I do not need a dealer to tell me the transmission is failing. What it is beyond comprehension is that at this astronomical repair cost, the dealer would only put a re-manufactured one to my car. If the donor car has more or less the same mileage as my car, if not more, it is just a matter of time for the donor transmission to fail. Perhaps I may be better off to roll the dice, buy a used transmission from eBay and pray a transmission shop will do the job right at a fraction of the cost. The pain of losing my love is still excruciating and certainly I do not want to experience anything similar again (over the years, I have developed bonding of some kind with this car). Selling it is the last thing I hope for.

Are Toyotas made to last? I will leave this to your judgment. My answer to that would be 'depends'. Honestly with the age of this car, it is understandable that something starts to fail. As with my other newer LS, a failing suspension at 26k miles is ridiculous. This is why my jaw drops each time reading stories of Prius / Camry / Corolla that never breaks at unbelievably high miles. Why is not the case for Lexus?

Thank you for taking the time to read.
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Hello fellow drivers,

My car is a 2004 Lexus LS 430 with approximately 150k+ miles. No major repairs throughout ownership. Excluding wear and tear such as brakes, tyres and suspension, minor ones are the door actuators, oil leak (engine gasket) and cruise control. Now, I am hit with a $6000 bill for the transmission. Anyone with the ability of making logical judgement would sell the car in the blink of an eye but my heart often overrides the brain.

A few months ago, the car was sluggish occasionally going in reverse but once it was given enough time to warm up, it reversed without any problems. Fast forward to last week, instead of difficulty in reverse, the car was sluggish to accelerate. Again, the car drove fine after a few minutes. Two days ago, the car did not move upon start up unless the engine hit 2000 rpm, which is ridiculous. My experience is that the car only hits 2000 rpm or above when travelling 60 mph+.

Although as ignorant as I am, I do not need a dealer to tell me the transmission is failing. What it is beyond comprehension is that at this astronomical repair cost, the dealer would only put a re-manufactured one to my car. If the donor car has more or less the same mileage as my car, if not more, it is just a matter of time for the donor transmission to fail. Perhaps I may be better off to roll the dice, buy a used transmission from eBay and pray a transmission shop will do the job right at a fraction of the cost. The pain of losing my love is still excruciating and certainly I do not want to experience anything similar again (over the years, I have developed bonding of some kind with this car). Selling it is the last thing I hope for.

Are Toyotas made to last? I will leave this to your judgment. My answer to that would be 'depends'. Honestly with the age of this car, it is understandable that something starts to fail. As with my other newer LS, a failing suspension at 26k miles is ridiculous. This is why my jaw drops each time reading stories of Prius / Camry / Corolla that never breaks at unbelievably high miles. Why is not the case for Lexus?

Thank you for taking the time to read.
Try changing the transmission filter & fluid first ?

Run a diagnostics test via computer.

Check transmission solenoids.

Rule out minor things FIRST.

P.S. - LEXUS IS BUILT BY TOYOTA .
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Refurbished $2,700.00 give or take plus shipping.

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" refurbished" may mean they changed the shift Solenoids.

Have it looked at by an INDEPENDENT mechanic.
Then decide.
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Software Update or an E.C.U. Module may be your answer.
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Could also be a bad valve body…

Low fluid… (perhaps from very slow leak)

Bad torque converter…
Exactly. I would replace filter & fluid.
Higher R.P.M.s are causing it to shift. So it may be a clog.dirt. changing filter would REVEAL excess metal particles indicating excessive band wear.

Cheapest place to start besides computer diagnostic tests.
Quick research indicates the problem is common in that make & is often resolved with a software update.

Check engine light Should come on if a Solenoid is the cause.

Transmission flash software update SHOULD cost from $75.00 - $250.00

Consult club Lexi's online to review experience & recommendations of Others who have Already been down this path.

Remember . . . Cars that Shift earn more TRADE IN DOLLARS !

So even if you no longer trust the car, it may Still be worth fixing.

Or . . . I'll give you $500.00 right now for it.
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Without actually seeing the vehicle I would most likely go with burned fluid and clogged filter first… change those, reset transmission software and see what happens… JMO
She should be able to do BOTH for under $500.00

Just changing fluid & filter will tell you a LOT about the transmission.

Too much metal = SELL. Even if it shifts good.

Car should be good till 300,000 miles with no Major repairs.

Software update & transmission filter/ fluid change is just ROUTINE MAINTENENCE.
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I would change fluid & filter NO FLUSH !
Flush in 18 year old car could cause leaking seals.
And REPROGRAM SOFTWARE .

IT IS BASICALLY A FANCY TOYOTA .

SHOULD BE MORE LIFE LEFT IN IT.

( You could Always REBUILD the transmission yourself on the kitchen table. . .. )

DAMN ! THE KITS AINT CHEAP !
OVER $1,000.00 WITH SOLENOID PISTONS.
OVER $700.00 WITHOUT !

BUT . . . A KIT IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET ALL THE INTERNALS NEW .
A$2,700.00 AUTOZONE REBUILD WITH CORE CHARGE ADDED ON TO THAT ) will only have damaged parts replaced. Not worn parts.( Cheap)
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The little silver can looking thing at top left corner is the Filter. Try that with New Fluid FIRST.
DO THE SOFTWARE UPDATE.
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All the little rubber O rings in the picture . .
Are the Reason I would NOT do a flush !
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Holy failed troubleshooting you guys!

Jessica. Before you do anything check your fluid level. Keep the car running in park. Find the transmission dip stick. Pull it out. Wipe it off. Put it all the way in, then pull it out. What is the reading on the stick?

Low fluid levels will produce the classic symptoms she is experiencing.
Yes.
I just assumed that part.
But YES !
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Google says that thing doesn't have a dipstick. Just a fill and a drain plug.
Open the fill plug.
If you can't see fluid, fill till it spills.
Dab a q tip in there. See how far down you go to see red.
There are LEXUS FORUMS.
DONT TRUST US.
GO TO LEXUS FORUM.
VIEW SOFTWARE FLASH.

MANY SWEAR IT WAS A FIX FOR THE PROBLEM YOU " SEEM" TO BE HAVING.

Changing fluid will allow judgement of band wear.
At 150,000 miles . . . It is time.
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Is that like putting pepper in your radiator to stop a leak?
Worse.
It quiets down worn rear ends which come from Mexico to G.M. trucks with tolerances of 159,000 miles of wear FROM THE FACTORY.
SAWDUST & GREASE
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Modern day transmissions do not have bands… they have clutches instead…
Same thing.
Fancy terminology.

2004 is " Modern"?
Blinker fluid, muffler bearing, and flux capacitor was never mentioned.

Very disappointed in you guys.
I was Saving this . . .
" Blinker Fluid "!

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More modern than 1974… so yeah lol
In 1974 models . . .changing transmission fluid could kill those old 3 speeds. Loss of " grit" could cause slippage .

Remember dropping the WHOLE damn transmission to change out a $2.00 front seal ?

76 nova-305 and 73 Pontiac Catalina. 400.

In the Catalina I had to add 1/2 quart of " reconstituted" transmission fluid to pull away from a red light sometimes !

Kept on going though.

Fun job by yourself when using only a floor jack to put car in blocks & to lower transmission when you got it loose !
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Now you have to take apart 1/2 the car to change that same front seal… and it cost $5 today… lol
Cars are STUPID NOW !

REPROGRMING SOFTWARE A 75% CHANCE OF FIXING THE LEXUS !

They put damn Computers in Tractors now !

We had a hand crank tractor when I was a kid !
Didn't need a damn battery even !

Had a crank handle you stuck into front of engine to TURN IT OVER

Damn tractor is STILL running somewhere probably.
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No " softieware" here !
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You mean you've never dug a trench in the ground and push the car over it to change the transmission?
Hell I had a ditch !
Why dig.
But . . . I worked on cars under the boat shed
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Where the hell do you live that you're going to kill somebody the same day you're pulling a transmission out of a car?
Might be the cause of the burial

Someone sold him a bad transmission !
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Now you have to take apart 1/2 the car to change that same front seal… and it cost $5 today… lol
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Pry old one out with a screwdriver.

Hammer new one in with block of wood .
Took about a minute to remove & install.
Took 1/2 day to get transmission out and 1/2 day to get transmission back in !

Especially if you seperated your universal joint & dropped the needle bearings in the dirt !
Cost you Another $5.99 for a new universal joint & 39 cents for the grease zert !

The old Corvettes used to have 8 damn u joints !
If you were running a built motor, you were going to change them often too.

( Nightmare material )
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