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Hello fellow drivers,

My car is a 2004 Lexus LS 430 with approximately 150k+ miles. No major repairs throughout ownership. Excluding wear and tear such as brakes, tyres and suspension, minor ones are the door actuators, oil leak (engine gasket) and cruise control. Now, I am hit with a $6000 bill for the transmission. Anyone with the ability of making logical judgement would sell the car in the blink of an eye but my heart often overrides the brain.

A few months ago, the car was sluggish occasionally going in reverse but once it was given enough time to warm up, it reversed without any problems. Fast forward to last week, instead of difficulty in reverse, the car was sluggish to accelerate. Again, the car drove fine after a few minutes. Two days ago, the car did not move upon start up unless the engine hit 2000 rpm, which is ridiculous. My experience is that the car only hits 2000 rpm or above when travelling 60 mph+.

Although as ignorant as I am, I do not need a dealer to tell me the transmission is failing. What it is beyond comprehension is that at this astronomical repair cost, the dealer would only put a re-manufactured one to my car. If the donor car has more or less the same mileage as my car, if not more, it is just a matter of time for the donor transmission to fail. Perhaps I may be better off to roll the dice, buy a used transmission from eBay and pray a transmission shop will do the job right at a fraction of the cost. The pain of losing my love is still excruciating and certainly I do not want to experience anything similar again (over the years, I have developed bonding of some kind with this car). Selling it is the last thing I hope for.

Are Toyotas made to last? I will leave this to your judgment. My answer to that would be 'depends'. Honestly with the age of this car, it is understandable that something starts to fail. As with my other newer LS, a failing suspension at 26k miles is ridiculous. This is why my jaw drops each time reading stories of Prius / Camry / Corolla that never breaks at unbelievably high miles. Why is not the case for Lexus?

Thank you for taking the time to read.
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Holy failed troubleshooting you guys!

Jessica. Before you do anything check your fluid level. Keep the car running in park. Find the transmission dip stick. Pull it out. Wipe it off. Put it all the way in, then pull it out. What is the reading on the stick?

EDIT: If your car does not have a dip stick you should take it into a trusted mechanic and have the level checked. I would trust a well-rated oil change place before a transmission shop. Only because their business relies on finding problems.

You are experiencing that classic signs of getting low on fluid. The transmission may be fine. Just DON'T drive the car except to the mechanic or you could cause damage. You may well just have a leak, and if so shouldn't cost that much to fix.
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Jessica, if your fluid level is in the normal range on the marks on the dip stick, again don't do anything. I will give you a link to a treatment you should try before changing the fluid or certainly before giving up on this transmission.

Not trying to be a know-it-all. Been there. Done that. I have brought transmissions back from the dead.
All you guys are doing is hijacking the thread at this point with the off topic comments. Everyone just stop posting if you are actually interested in helping her. She often only checks the forum once in a while and will be confused from all the posts. Yes, I hijacked the thread because that is where you start.

If there is no dipstick she should take it in to an oil change place or mechanic and have them look for leaks underneath.
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Here is a link to a video showing how to check the fluid level. It is similar to how the fluid is checked in a manual transmission or rear end...

First of all, thank you for all the replies, whether related or irrelevant to the transmission. The sense of humour of some members has certainly given me some distractions. Confession here to my boss, although I am 100% certain she is not an audience of this forum, I have not made much progress this week (yes, but you see me online).

While I am still waiting for a detail breakdown for this astronomical task, can I ask if this is the moment to let go the car? Has it passed the point when things start to fail and break one after another? Personally, I do not mind to bite the bullet this time but what if the engine breaks in the coming months or years? Now, I would like to talk about the dealer. Perhaps they are trained to sweet talk their customers, but if they wanted my business so bad, they did not have to tell me a used transmission unit would be used (if I understand them correctly). They said it would come with one-year warranty for both parts and labour, but I would say the odd for this donor unit to fail after the 12-month mark is high. Then I will be drowned in a vicious cycle of replacing transmission?

If I choose to sell this car, if it can be sold at all, that will put me in a very difficult situation. I will need to fly back to Houston and drive the other car across multiple states to where I live... Don't forget the front strut broke in 2020 when the car was 5 years old with 26k miles.... It would be a miracle if I could still be in one piece after such a long distance drive. That thing is more like an art piece (love the front grill) than a car and here is the dilemma, if I sell that too, that will leave me on foot...



I am aware that Lexus is a fancy version of Toyota, this is why I am always puzzled by the fact that the reputation of reliability does not apply to Lexus. The dealer asked $200 for diagnosis, which I agreed.

You reminded me of the transmission fix that I almost forgot. At the120k mile service, I was skeptical for such job since a sealed transmission should translate to 'lifetime fluid' in theory. Although it is unclear what the dealer did to the transmission, nothing went wrong after the job. The term 'service transmission minor' is very ambiguous. The car care nut guy did make a point that you cannot refute, that is, 'Is Toyota going to fix your transmission when it breaks?'.

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Later, when my car was at the same shop for maintenance again, I was told there was a transmission fluid leak. The repair was a little pricey but I thought it could be a good investment to prevent disastrous transmission failure. Again, the car shifted perfectly until a few months ago. Here are the details.

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Thank you for recommending the Lexus forum. I have tried a brief search and it seems most members there are gearheads!



This sounds like a procedure to check engine oil level, which I think I learnt that from you and another member a year ago. Briefly, this is what happened before posting on UP.net - Out of frustration, I stopped at a gas station, opened my trunk and checked the maintenance record, and bought the exact same oil. Then I poured all its content into the engine until the low engine oil warning came off.

I never know there is a dipstick for transmission fluid. If you read my reply to another member, I believe the dealer has refilled the fluid after sealing the transmission pan. It goes without saying that this is under the assumption that they have done the job right.




This is what the dealer said too at the time of fixing the transmission leak. The way they boasted the expertise and skills required to fill with the correct amount of fluid at the correct temperature, and emphasized overfilling can equally be catastrophic has certainly provided the highest level of assurance as possible. May be I was too naive?
Thanks for including that info on the transmission. Again, I would not consider the car a has-been until you find out if it is just another leak. Anyone, even an oil change place can have a look under the car and instantly know.

By all appearances from looking at the receipts you posted the trans repair was done properly. At least on paper. It shows the correct steps being done. But I am even more suspicious now than before that you just have a leak. A bolt wasn't tightened enough, a warped pan, something like that. Not an expensive fix. Get someone to look under the car, or you yourself can have a quick look. Is there an oil stain in where you park your car?
This sounds like a procedure to check engine oil level, which I think I learnt that from you and another member a year ago. Briefly, this is what happened before posting on UP.net - Out of frustration, I stopped at a gas station, opened my trunk and checked the maintenance record, and bought the exact same oil. Then I poured all its content into the engine until the low engine oil warning came off.
Oh. You might want to tell us a bit more about that. Are you talking about a prior incident some time ago. If so, water under the bridge. But if you want to keep your car a long time...... actually I just recall what I advised before..... check your oil level, with the dipstick, every time you gas up. Don't wait for the light. Just make it a habit to pop the hood when you gas up. I said that before and I'm sayin' it again.

I never know there is a dipstick for transmission fluid. If you read my reply to another member, I believe the dealer has refilled the fluid after sealing the transmission pan. It goes without saying that this is under the assumption that they have done the job right.
From what @Older Chauffeur said there may well be no dipstick. You have to check the level from under the car (bummer!). Again, have a mechanic do this. Don't drive the car too much. I would NOT pay $200 to have that done, but if you already brought the car in, still cheaper than a new trans.
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So they changed your fluid & pan gasket !
I am thinking that the leak they thought they were fixing with a new pan gasket did not address the issue. Should have, but didn't. There may be a tiny rock hole in the pan, and it's been leaking (still) ever since that work, and the fluid finally got low enough to where the torque converter did not have enough juice to do its job until the fluid warms up and expands.
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