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The newest tech trend in Silicon Valley is automated cars. All the big sharks from Silicon Valley are competing between each other in a race where the winner will pioneer this technology.

When the average Joe hears about vehicles piloted by an AI, all he can think of is how great this is going to be. After all, having an AI piloting for you means, that you will be able to use your time time on the road wisely while stuck in a traffic jam, for example. Activities such as reading a book, playing a game on your smartphone, relaxing or just watching the view of the city will all be possible, thanks to the AI, who will be taking care of reaching your intended destination without crashing or losing the route.

All of this sounds really great, doesn't it? However, the masses adopting every technological revolution is plain wrong. Every technological advancement should be taken with a grain of salt. They don't always translate as an improvement to our conditions of living. Nonetheless, let's look deeper at this issue.

Your car is now a RC car waiting to be controlled by the government, corporations and hackers

Remember, when you were a child and experienced the joy of playing with your RC car until an old brother of yours took the remote control from your hands? Well the same will occur with your automated automobile, but this time it will be Big Brother in the literal meaning of the word!

If you are born in a corrupt country with a facade democracy and ruled by an iron first, you realize how bad this idea sounds. Imagine this technology at the hands of corrupt politicians and crooked entrepreneurs, they will use it to achieve personal gains such as trying to silence anyone that opposes them or forcing the car's AI to bring political activists to the police or getting the location of a suspect through the vehicle's GPS system.

If this technology ever becomes a trend in least developed countries such as Brazil, India, China and Russia, I'm sure it's most likely to be used to enforce the elites's wicked goals rather than to give more comfort to the local population.

An AI is still a software program, which means glitches that can threaten lives

Not so long ago, Uber was testing a autonomous vehicle in Arizona that failed to slow down and stop when a woman was crossing the highway. As a consequence the car ran over her and ended her life.

This is further proof that no matter how much bug fixes they do, an AI is still a computer program written in a programming language. Which means bugs will always exist. Even after the engineers fix most bugs and thus the software gets closer to perfection, every now and then a glitch will cause an accident or cost an innocent life.

The real reason behind why they still want to keep pushing self-driving cars


Even after the death of a pedestrian Uber, Tesla, Google and other tech giants stated that they are still committed in their quest for pushing automated vehicles, until there won't be human drivers any more. No one will ever need to worry about knowing how to drive cars. After all, it's all about giving the masses more comfort, right?

You might have heard of Uber CEO, Khosrowshahi, make these statements: "Ultimately, self-driving cars will be safer than humans, but right now self-driving cars are learning," and "They're student drivers. You need a safety driver with a student driver. When that student driver graduates, it will be safer than humans.".

The real reason behind all those corporations investing in self-driving automobiles isn't because they care about your well-being nor your family's and want to give you more comfort in the future. The reality is that it's all a plan for them to cut more jobs, increase their profits, and make people more dependent on the elites, since no one might be able to drive vehicles on their own in a not so far future.

After all, a robot won't ask their boss for a raise, get sick, or file a lawsuit against their employer. They don't care if self-driving automobiles are more likely to cause crashes than human-driven vehicles nor that this technology might be used by corrupt governments and crooked entrepreneurs to spy on you or quietly kill anyone. After all later on they can claim it was a glitch in the AI to get away with it.

What all these tech corporations care about is to push their agenda, increase their power over the masses, cut costs, and increase their profits. In a not so far future, multinational corporations will probably bribe politicians to accelerate their agenda of standardizing self-driving cars and make human-driven automobiles obsolete, until it's possible to completely cease the production of human-driven cars.
 

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Are we really taking this article seriously? Do you often take interest in articles posted from returnofkings.com ?

Yam Digger , in case you are unfamiliar with the type of people who run that site. Their "about" page used to indicate:

"Women and homosexuals are prohibited from commenting here. They will be immediately banned, and anyone who replies to them will also be banned. This includes replying in any thread that they started."

To which it now has been cleaned up a bit to say:

"Women and homosexuals are strongly discouraged from commenting here."

The above should tell you the sort of nonsense that is allowed to take root and fester on that site. You won't get any sort of rational, intelligent, nor a non-misogynistic/bigoted/racist perspective in the content they discuss.

#TheHandmaid'sTale



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Having said that, I did read the article as you posted, and all I get from it, is the same type of fear mongering around the subject of technology being the root of all evil and the end of civilization. It's as if the author and the readers who have commented on it, want to return to a time of the horse and carriage.

I'm not about to repeat myself on this thread, as I've debated in many threads on uberpeople that had a subject around technology killing the number of jobs, and therefore society should not be embracing it. And I've stated over and over that that simply isn't born out of any historical evidence of fact. The truth is, is that the people who give merit to this sort of thing, are the people who refuse to adapt to change. They would rather the world stop moving forward, so that they can continue to keep their current way of life going.

Anyways, that's all I have to say on this subject.

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I can’t take the author or that website seriously. Their brand of neomasculinity is nothing but misogynistic, proven by their other articles.

But regarding the AV article, I don’t buy into all the fear mongering. It reminds me of the Y2K nonsense—people (who have something to gain from spreading fear) getting everyone worked up when there is no danger. AV’s will be safer than human drivers, there’s no doubting that.

I don’t believe the rise of technology will mean Big Brother will hack into my ride and drive me to a secret location where their robot interogators will have their way with me. Call me an optimist.. ;)
 
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Are we really taking this article seriously? Do you often take interest in articles posted from returnofkings.com ?

Yam Digger , in case you are unfamiliar with the type of people who run that site. Their "about" page used to indicate:

"Women and homosexuals are prohibited from commenting here. They will be immediately banned, and anyone who replies to them will also be banned. This includes replying in any thread that they started."

To which it now has been cleaned up a bit to say:

"Women and homosexuals are strongly discouraged from commenting here."

The above should tell you the sort of nonsense that is allowed to take root and fester on that site. You won't get any sort of rational, intelligent, nor a non-misogynistic/bigoted/racist perspective in the content they discuss.

#TheHandmaid'sTale



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Having said that, I did read the article as you posted, and all I get from it, is the same type of fear mongering around the subject of technology being the root of all evil and the end of civilization. It's as if the author and the readers who have commented on it, want to return to a time of the horse and carriage.

I'm not about to repeat myself on this thread, as I've debated in many threads on uberpeople that had a subject around technology killing the number of jobs, and therefore society should not be embracing it. And I've stated over and over that that simply isn't born out of any historical evidence of fact. The truth is, is that the people who give merit to this sort of thing, are the people who refuse to adapt to change. They would rather the world stop moving forward, so that they can continue to keep their current way of life going.

Anyways, that's all I have to say on this subject.

djino
If the neighborhood registered sex-offender saw the roof of your house on fire and banged on your door to tell you about it, would you shoo him away and go back in your house because it was he that told you?

If you were crossing the street and the neighborhood drug dealer on the street corner saw that a car just turned the corner and was baring down on you and he shouted for you to get out of the way, would you ignore him because of his occupation and keep walking anyway?

I'm well aware that ROK tends misogynistic and I don't agree with everything they say. Nevertheless, I can't see any flaws in the article itself and it makes some very salient points that need to be considered. Especially how Tech companies are faaaaaar more concerned about their profits than about the communities they unleash their products in.
 

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I read the article. Most of it is over the top hyperbole. I remain happy to see A.I. take over all the driving jobs in Canada. No matter how many accidents or programming quirks, it will not equal the sheer number of dumb things humans do on road, and the crashes/injuries/deaths that follow. Happy to give up driving (outside of the occasional pleasure drive) to the algorithms of the world to free up all that urban space (parking lots and garages) and more efficient travel.

The Arizona-Uber thing is over-wrought, as it appears (admittedly videos can be deceiving) that no human would have had the reaction time to prevent that person from being run over.

The developing world will have to figure out a way to make the technology work with their governments and citizens or be left behind.
 

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I read the article. Most of it is over the top hyperbole. I remain happy to see A.I. take over all the driving jobs in Canada. No matter how many accidents or programming quirks, it will not equal the sheer number of dumb things humans do on road, and the crashes/injuries/deaths that follow. Happy to give up driving (outside of the occasional pleasure drive) to the algorithms of the world to free up all that urban space (parking lots and garages) and more efficient travel.

The Arizona-Uber thing is over-wrought, as it appears (admittedly videos can be deceiving) that no human would have had the reaction time to prevent that person from being run over.

The developing world will have to figure out a way to make the technology work with their governments and citizens or be left behind.
Be careful what you wish for.

As for me. I Will Give Up Driving My Car When They Pry The Steering Wheel From My Cold Dead Fingers

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http://www.returnofkings.com/169833/self-driving-cars-will-destroy-human-freedom

The newest tech trend in Silicon Valley is automated cars. All the big sharks from Silicon Valley are competing between each other in a race where the winner will pioneer this technology.

When the average Joe hears about vehicles piloted by an AI, all he can think of is how great this is going to be. After all, having an AI piloting for you means, that you will be able to use your time time on the road wisely while stuck in a traffic jam, for example. Activities such as reading a book, playing a game on your smartphone, relaxing or just watching the view of the city will all be possible, thanks to the AI, who will be taking care of reaching your intended destination without crashing or losing the route.

All of this sounds really great, doesn't it? However, the masses adopting every technological revolution is plain wrong. Every technological advancement should be taken with a grain of salt. They don't always translate as an improvement to our conditions of living. Nonetheless, let's look deeper at this issue.

Your car is now a RC car waiting to be controlled by the government, corporations and hackers

Remember, when you were a child and experienced the joy of playing with your RC car until an old brother of yours took the remote control from your hands? Well the same will occur with your automated automobile, but this time it will be Big Brother in the literal meaning of the word!

If you are born in a corrupt country with a facade democracy and ruled by an iron first, you realize how bad this idea sounds. Imagine this technology at the hands of corrupt politicians and crooked entrepreneurs, they will use it to achieve personal gains such as trying to silence anyone that opposes them or forcing the car's AI to bring political activists to the police or getting the location of a suspect through the vehicle's GPS system.

If this technology ever becomes a trend in least developed countries such as Brazil, India, China and Russia, I'm sure it's most likely to be used to enforce the elites's wicked goals rather than to give more comfort to the local population.

An AI is still a software program, which means glitches that can threaten lives

Not so long ago, Uber was testing a autonomous vehicle in Arizona that failed to slow down and stop when a woman was crossing the highway. As a consequence the car ran over her and ended her life.

This is further proof that no matter how much bug fixes they do, an AI is still a computer program written in a programming language. Which means bugs will always exist. Even after the engineers fix most bugs and thus the software gets closer to perfection, every now and then a glitch will cause an accident or cost an innocent life.

The real reason behind why they still want to keep pushing self-driving cars


Even after the death of a pedestrian Uber, Tesla, Google and other tech giants stated that they are still committed in their quest for pushing automated vehicles, until there won't be human drivers any more. No one will ever need to worry about knowing how to drive cars. After all, it's all about giving the masses more comfort, right?

You might have heard of Uber CEO, Khosrowshahi, make these statements: "Ultimately, self-driving cars will be safer than humans, but right now self-driving cars are learning," and "They're student drivers. You need a safety driver with a student driver. When that student driver graduates, it will be safer than humans.".

The real reason behind all those corporations investing in self-driving automobiles isn't because they care about your well-being nor your family's and want to give you more comfort in the future. The reality is that it's all a plan for them to cut more jobs, increase their profits, and make people more dependent on the elites, since no one might be able to drive vehicles on their own in a not so far future.

After all, a robot won't ask their boss for a raise, get sick, or file a lawsuit against their employer. They don't care if self-driving automobiles are more likely to cause crashes than human-driven vehicles nor that this technology might be used by corrupt governments and crooked entrepreneurs to spy on you or quietly kill anyone. After all later on they can claim it was a glitch in the AI to get away with it.

What all these tech corporations care about is to push their agenda, increase their power over the masses, cut costs, and increase their profits. In a not so far future, multinational corporations will probably bribe politicians to accelerate their agenda of standardizing self-driving cars and make human-driven automobiles obsolete, until it's possible to completely cease the production of human-driven cars.
Thanks for this interesting article. Al just like an AlphaGo algorithm could be our future in a generatiom(30 years). So I have an unaccountable fear...
 
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