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Any driver who willingly accepts them is an idiot.
So Uber expects me to not only verify age via I.D., but also wants me to confirm that the customer is not inebriated, or something along those lines.
Oh yeah, here's the kicker. I really love the disclaimer/warning from Uber to the driver that serving minors and/or those who are inebriated may result in criminal prosecution.
So let me get this straight.
1. As a driver I have never received any training in the serving of alcohol, unlike that of a bartender, liquor store employee etc.
2. I am not an expert in recognizing valid I.D. versus fake I.D.
3. I am not an expert in determining one's state of inebriation/drunkenness.
4. And I'm expected to accept any and all responsibility if something negative should occur from delivering alcohol so I can make like $10.
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'Effffff that BS!
So think about it very carefully. If you as a driver still feel it's worth the risk, go for it. However, if you have any common sense, you'll decline each, and every delivery involving alcohol.
PS: Be carefull of Walmart orders with beer/wine. No upfront warning. Happened to me last week. As I see the case of beer in the cart I told the Walmart employee "Forget it. No way!" Made them unload the groceries and called the customer to make them cancel, informing them why! They were somwhat upset but IDGAF. Blame it on Uber, not me!
 

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Any driver who willingly accepts them is an idiot.
So Uber expects me to not only verify age via I.D., but also wants me to confirm that the customer is not inebriated, or something along those lines.
Oh yeah, here's the kicker. I really love the disclaimer/warning from Uber to the driver that serving minors and/or those who are inebriated may result in criminal prosecution.
So let me get this straight.
1. As a driver I have never received any training in the serving of alcohol, unlike that of a bartender, liquor store employee etc.
2. I am not an expert in recognizing valid I.D. versus fake I.D.
3. I am not an expert in determining one's state of inebriation/drunkenness.
4. And I'm expected to accept any and all responsibility if something negative should occur from delivering alcohol so I can make like $10.
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'Effffff that BS!
So think about it very carefully. If you as a driver still feel it's worth the risk, go for it. However, if you have any common sense, you'll decline each, and every delivery involving alcohol.
PS: Be carefull of Walmart orders with beer/wine. No upfront warning. Happened to me last week. As I see the case of beer in the cart I told the Walmart employee "Forget it. No way!" Made them unload the groceries and called the customer to make them cancel, informing them why! They were somwhat upset but IDGAF. Blame it on Uber, not me!
I have to laugh tough guy!

First off, it would never occur to me that you would ever admit to taking a Walmart ping. I never will and I'm not as discriminating as you.
Second, worrying about all sorts of liability issues, I thought you were a do whatever I want and don't worry about the consequences kind of guy?
Finally: given that there's usually good money in alcohol deliveries (and you shouldn't be taking them iff there isn't) if you follow the procedures, what's the possibility of any repercussions? I'm guessing less than 1 in million.
 

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I just wouldn't do it either, because you have to think of the scenario you are entering into when you accept the ping in the first place.
Yup. All you need us one bad incident
(ie: minors) and you are sooooo ! And for what, ti make $10-$15-$20 hell even $100 simply us nit worth the risk. F U Uber for even introducing this shyte, and then making drivers %100 liable. 馃槨
 

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Next up, a discussion of the book 鈥淢aking a mountain out of a molehill, a driver鈥檚 guide to living in fear鈥.
Yup! I've read all about all of the Uber drivers who have been arrested, face pushedinto the hood of their car strip searched right there on the street. If the ID reasonably looks like the person, and they are able to answer door under their own power then scan it and hand over the goods, you are fine. Not a single report of anyone getting arrested or sued, has there been?
 

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Drivers have reported their making pretty good money on this. Some have complained about the risks or about recipients who were not supposed to have the alcohol.
 

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Yup! I've read all about all of the Uber drivers who have been arrested, face pushedinto the hood of their car strip searched right there on the street. If the ID reasonably looks like the person, and they are able to answer door under their own power then scan it and hand over the goods, you are fine. Not a single report of anyone getting arrested or sued, has there been?
You would think this was complicated listening to some! 馃榿. It鈥檚 not rocket science and a little common sense goes a long way.

Sometimes you would think that some of these people don鈥檛 live in the real world on this forum. I remember once disclosing that I sold cheap cigars I bought at the gas station for $2 to drunks for $10 on the drunk shift. Some idiots jumped all over me because it was going to be a problem documenting this and reporting the income to the IRS. I was warned that by some mysterious way I was going to get caught in an IRS audit or that the ATF would have undercover cops riding in my car! :LOL::LOL::LOL::ROFLMAO:

As if there would ever be a scenario where I sold a cigar for $10 cash and then report it to the authorities! :ROFLMAO:

Never mind @Guido-TheKillerPimp, he鈥檚 a dissertation in inconsistency waiting to be studied in a lab somewhere! He drives down the road sucking on a PBR listening to a Whitesnake 8-track while having panic attacks that he might accidentally deliver a 12 pack of Natty Daddy鈥檚 to a 13 year old girl!
 

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Any driver who willingly accepts them is an idiot.
So Uber expects me to not only verify age via I.D., but also wants me to confirm that the customer is not inebriated, or something along those lines.
Oh yeah, here's the kicker. I really love the disclaimer/warning from Uber to the driver that serving minors and/or those who are inebriated may result in criminal prosecution.
So let me get this straight.
1. As a driver I have never received any training in the serving of alcohol, unlike that of a bartender, liquor store employee etc.
2. I am not an expert in recognizing valid I.D. versus fake I.D.
3. I am not an expert in determining one's state of inebriation/drunkenness.
4. And I'm expected to accept any and all responsibility if something negative should occur from delivering alcohol so I can make like $10.
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'Effffff that BS!
$10 is too low, but I think the alcohol delivery idea is really good in theory. Driver should get a premium to deal with all the BS, and get to keep the alcohol if the person is underage, lacks valid ID, or is overly drunk. And seriously, unless they are falling all over themselves getting to the door, it's going to be hard to prosecute you for them being too drunk. If they are sober enough to answer and show their ID, they're probably sober enough that you can say they are sober to the best of your judgement. Uber should always side with the driver on this and not count what the passenger says though, because all the people who are denied are going to raise a big stink about it and drivers shouldn't be afraid of false reports from these trips, considering that the government does stings where they will try and get drivers to deliver to underage people. Driver should get paid the return trip to the store or get to keep the alcohol if it is cheaper than the return trip payout. Total payout for every trip if completed successfully should be more than the return trip value (or the alcohol value if cheaper) to prevent drivers from falsely declaring it undeliverable. And pax can also add a tip to encourage driver to fulfill the order.
 

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Still not worth the risk. Good money? Pffft! Considering Uber pins any & all liability on you. What can go wrong? Seriously? K, keep accepting them. Not my problem.
How often do you read about bartenders going to jail/going to prison/getting fined for serving alcohol to an underage person?

Like...never.

It's not even something you need to worry about, if it's not something bars and bartenders get hammered for.
 

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How often do you read about bartenders going to jail/going to prison/getting fined for serving alcohol to an underage person?

Like...never.

It's not even something you need to worry about, if it's not something bars and bartenders get hammered for.
In my area bars get fined and sometimes forced to close when they fail in sting operations. Closure usually happens after failing more than once. Casinos have faced giant fines too and the threat of closures.

Failing bars were cited with a criminal misdemeanor charge and a $500 fine.:

2 different sting operations 2 months apart:
10 bars/convience stores cited
3 bars cited

Liquor license revoked after violations:



Caesars fined $100,000 for letting minors drink/gamble:
 

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In my area bars get fined and sometimes forced to close all the time when they fail in sting operations. Casinos have faced giant fines too and the threat of closures.
That happens everywhere when there's a reported "problem bar", typically after police get irritated with numerous complaints and calls to that location for fights, alcohol poisoning requiring ambulance transport, etc.

I'm talking about specific targeting of a particular bartender or bar inadvertently serving someone underage. Guarantee every bar and restaurant anywhere that serves alcohol, serves it to someone underage every single day and night. They don't know it, and they do their best to try to prevent it. And so long as they go thru the steps to TRY to verify, they're okay. They don't get messed with.

It's the places that clearly ignore the law, don't attempt to check ID's, don't attempt to stop a visibly intoxicated person from drinking way too much - that get targeted.

ABC and police aren't out to make examples of alcohol servers/deliverers that try to do the right thing.

They go after those that don't care about doing the right thing.
 

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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
How often do you read about bartenders going to jail/going to prison/getting fined for serving alcohol to an underage person?

Like...never.

It's not even something you need to worry about, if it's not something bars and bartenders get hammered for.
Bartenders receive training for serving alcohol. Bars have insurance. How often do you think before speaking?
 

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That happens everywhere when there's a reported "problem bar", typically after police get irritated with numerous complaints and calls to that location for fights, alcohol poisoning requiring ambulance transport, etc.

I'm talking about specific targeting of a particular bartender or bar inadvertently serving someone underage. Guarantee every bar and restaurant anywhere that serves alcohol, serves it to someone underage every single day and night. They don't know it, and they do their best to try to prevent it. And so long as they go thru the steps to TRY to verify, they're okay. They don't get messed with.

It's the places that clearly ignore the law, don't attempt to check ID's, don't attempt to stop a visibly intoxicated person from drinking way too much - that get targeted.

ABC and police aren't out to make examples of alcohol servers/deliverers that try to do the right thing.

They go after those that don't care about doing the right thing.
Listen
Drivers have reported their making pretty good money on this.
Really? Best payout I ever saw was $20. Again, regardless of the payout, the inherent risk, no matter how small is NOT worth it. But hey, do what you want!
 

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Yup! I've read all about all of the Uber drivers who have been arrested, face pushedinto the hood of their car strip searched right there on the street. If the ID reasonably looks like the person, and they are able to answer door under their own power then scan it and hand over the goods, you are fine. Not a single report of anyone getting arrested or sued, has there been?
Dude, go ahead and ignore the inherent risk. Liability my friend. You dont want to learn it's definition the hard way. But forget anything I said. Ask any attorney if delivering alcohol under Uber's conditions, is worth doing so.
 

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$10 is too low, but I think the alcohol delivery idea is really good in theory. Driver should get a premium to deal with all the BS, and get to keep the alcohol if the person is underage, lacks valid ID, or is overly drunk. And seriously, unless they are falling all over themselves getting to the door, it's going to be hard to prosecute you for them being too drunk. If they are sober enough to answer and show their ID, they're probably sober enough that you can say they are sober to the best of your judgement. Uber should always side with the driver on this and not count what the passenger says though, because all the people who are denied are going to raise a big stink about it and drivers shouldn't be afraid of false reports from these trips, considering that the government does stings where they will try and get drivers to deliver to underage people. Driver should get paid the return trip to the store or get to keep the alcohol if it is cheaper than the return trip payout. Total payout for every trip if completed successfully should be more than the return trip value (or the alcohol value if cheaper) to prevent drivers from falsely declaring it undeliverable. And pax can also add a tip to encourage driver to fulfill the order.
Again, delivering alcohol under Ubers conditions is beyond stupid!
 

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Next up, a discussion of the book 鈥淢aking a mountain out of a molehill, a driver鈥檚 guide to living in fear鈥.
Fine. If you don't, or refuse to get it, that's your choice. IDGAF. Me, no worries whatsoever 'cause I refuse all booze deliveries. Enjoy!
 

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Here is something you may not know and you do not have to deliver alcohol鈥 If you opted into delivering alcohol for Uber you can request they take you off that list and believe me they will with a smile on their face because I did it after the third time they sent me to pick up alcohol that was not stated as a alcohol delivery and they told me I had to get it and take it!

So now I just check the items before I deliver and make sure I am not carrying any alcohol and if so I cancel the order and go on to the next order when pinged鈥

I only deliver for DoorDash when it come to alcohol because the tips are amazing!
 
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