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Quit driving and stop whining.
A researcher rode more than 5,000 miles with Uber and Lyft and discovered the biggest differences
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I'm still trying to figure why people still think Lyft is any better or treat drivers any better, especially since they use tactics to try to bully and intimidate drivers into accepting rides (dangerous and aggressive pop-up screens, emails, and texts and trying to trick drivers into accepting requests by not showing pick-up times so they can threaten them if they cancel), their resistance to and sneaky avoidance of paying drivers bonuses, their ridiculously high $2500 insurance premium, and their constantly deactivating riders for canceling rides are all worst for drivers than Uber's practices in these respective areas.Full story: https://m.sfgate.com/technology/bus...-more-than-5-000-miles-with-Uber-13345975.php
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On the surface, there may not appear to be much of a difference between Uber and Lyft.
But there are more subtle differences only an ethnographer might notice, and even then, only after riding more than 5,000 miles with ride-hailing drivers across the United States. That's exactly what Alex Rosenblat, a researcher at the Data & Society Research Institute, did for her new book "Uberland: How algorithms are rewriting the rules of work," which was published October 23.
Most of the subtle differences, the ones only a seasoned driver or rider might take account of, all come down to how the respective companies treat their drivers. Despite a number of pushes to classify drivers as employees - and thus entitle them to things like a minimum wage, insurance, and benefits - both Lyft and Uber still consider them independent contractors.
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"Among most drivers I meet in person, and the countless number I've observed in online forums," writes Rosenblatt, "there is a near-universal consensus that Lyft treats its drivers better than Uber."
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I've heard from riders that have met or contract with Lyft in areas outside of rideshare that their executives are the ones spreading the BS that drivers like and prefer working for them - all Lyft's agenda to seem like a friendly, caring company while they lobby against governments to keep driver pay low. And I almost forgot until I saw it mentioned by someone else how Lyft makes it difficult to turn off the app and adds stacked rides without your acceptance that would count against you if you cancel (which is not even supposed to be done with independent contractors, as opposed to employees). They're just as slimy and low-down as Uber, if not more so.
Uber is bad in other ways, which evens them out to be equally bad. Plus they both pay pittance and find ways to decrease even that. Where is the "neither" option in the survey?
So in essence, they're assigning rides without giving drivers the information they would need to determine if it would be profitable or decide if they should take it but will deactivate you if you cancel them too many times. That seems like what an employer would do with an employee, not an independent contractor.
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I think she is lilcindy
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lol the guy with the science fiction username and wolfboy display picture telling people they're out of it is the ultimate kettle calling the pot black
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Yes. You're right: a video game I played as a kid about a Roman Warrior coming back to life and gaining magical powers means I can't tell people that anti-science bullshit is ridiculous. My bad.
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Sometimes dogs eat horseshit. It's supposed to be good for them.
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Lyft HQ had a party / event yesterday for women drivers (was Int'l Women's Day). Yummy cheese treats and a $20 Shell gift card. You'd think Uber, with its history of misogynistic management, would wanna do something like this-- but no love for the ladies from Uberdick.
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I'd prefer better pay so I can get my own cheese and gas.
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It's like asking drivers:
Which would you rather have, cancer or AIDS?
Which would you rather have, cancer or AIDS?
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With LA drivers there's nearly universal agreement Lyft is worse than Uber.Full story: https://m.sfgate.com/technology/bus...-more-than-5-000-miles-with-Uber-13345975.php
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On the surface, there may not appear to be much of a difference between Uber and Lyft.
But there are more subtle differences only an ethnographer might notice, and even then, only after riding more than 5,000 miles with ride-hailing drivers across the United States. That's exactly what Alex Rosenblat, a researcher at the Data & Society Research Institute, did for her new book "Uberland: How algorithms are rewriting the rules of work," which was published October 23.
Most of the subtle differences, the ones only a seasoned driver or rider might take account of, all come down to how the respective companies treat their drivers. Despite a number of pushes to classify drivers as employees - and thus entitle them to things like a minimum wage, insurance, and benefits - both Lyft and Uber still consider them independent contractors.
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"Among most drivers I meet in person, and the countless number I've observed in online forums," writes Rosenblatt, "there is a near-universal consensus that Lyft treats its drivers better than Uber."
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Did you hear that they've cured their second AIDS patient. yea. In London. With stem cells. Very recently.
We might have a cure for AIDS.
Also, I'd want to know: What kind of cancer? some are very curable. My wife had cancer of the thyroid. Doc said that "If God tapped me on the shoulder and said "Good news, bad news. You have to get cancer. Good news is, you get to choose what kind." He said he'd choose Thyroid cancer. Very, very high survival rates - not fast moving, usually doesn't spread, not aggressive.
Kind of off topic ... but, I know chit.
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