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I disagree You can make money doing this. I dont earn enough to make this my sole source of income. but as a supplement to a primary income, it can work;

If you do this as a side hustle. It can pay for unexpected expenses and/or take care of some of your household expenses. If it only makes the car payment , thats something
Came back here after 3 years . We discuss this topic again . Did 6 years full time behind the wheel . This is my 3rd car. Remember rates over a $1 compared to .50 .Remember $60 airport trips on less than hour.3x , 4x surges every weekend and events .

Rolling Stones Concert , had a trip of $180 and in hour and half I was back to pickup another one .That good times are long gone. Day trips are sucks and even weekend driver take trips for pennies . I turn my app to check demand and when I calculate the time and mileage offered, just turn it back off.
I stand on my first comment. It is an illusion that sooner or later, driver wake up to realize they were duped .
 

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Came back here after 3 years . We discuss this topic again . Did 6 years full time behind the wheel . This is my 3rd car. Remember rates over a $1 compared to .50 .Remember $60 airport trips on less than hour.3x , 4x surges every weekend and events .

Rolling Stones Concert , had a trip of $180 and in hour and half I was back to pickup another one .That good times are long gone. Day trips are sucks and even weekend driver take trips for pennies . I turn my app to check demand and when I calculate the time and mileage offered, just turn it back off.
I stand on my first comment. It is an illusion that sooner or later, driver wake up to realize they were duped .
sooner or later? My first ride was Christmas day, 2017 so lets count 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 2022, that's 5 years and 25% of my 6th year. so not quite as much time as you. I never experienced the good old days. Perhaps thats the difference. You were spoiled by the good old days and not able to adapt to todays "bad times" I never never experienced the good times ....this is all I know. and Ive been able to make it work for me.

Im on my second car, I dont drive nights, I wait until I get a ride I want. and I net 3k to 4k a month


My point is that, the fact that you arent able to make uber work for you (or maybe its simply that there isnt enough money doing uber to meet your needs) ;. does not mean it isnt working for me.. Like you when it dosent work for me, like you Ill quit.
 

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My point is that, the fact that you arent able to make uber work for you (or maybe its simply that there isnt enough money doing uber to meet your needs) ;. does not mean it isnt working for me.. Like you when it dosent work for me, like you Ill quit.
And that right there seems to be the issue for many on this site, if it doesn't meet their needs it doesn't work for them, not much we can do about that with the current situation of uber and Lyft and the way they're paying us, I for example live right in the center of a major city it's not a super City it's not Los Angeles but in my city is very busy in the mornings and the evenings I live right Smackdown between the 10 freeway the 215 freeway the 15 freeway and the 210, so I can literally in the morning sit at my house and wait for nothing but Uber comfort and lyft luxury trips, and on the weekends I go out and work Friday Saturday night sometimes a few hours on Sundays that's all I need to meet my needs, and I have to be honest Uber and Lyft is not my only income I do have a secondary part-time job that I do online at my leisure, so Uber and Lyft is a godsend for me yeah I wish it paid more but I Work It been doing this for 8 years now taxi for 12 years I don't mind sitting and waiting in my car for a good trip, there are people on on the site who told me directly that I'm crazy that I have like 40 50 60 hours of online time but only 20 or 30 of that is active booked time, well I'm used to it I'm an ex taxi driver.
 

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sooner or later? My first ride was Christmas day, 2017 so lets count 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 2022, that's 5 years and 25% of my 6th year. so not quite as much time as you. I never experienced the good old days. Perhaps thats the difference. You were spoiled by the good old days and not able to adapt to todays "bad times" I never never experienced the good times ....this is all I know. and Ive been able to make it work for me.

Im on my second car, I dont drive nights, I wait until I get a ride I want. and I net 3k to 4k a month


My point is that, the fact that you arent able to make uber work for you (or maybe its simply that there isnt enough money doing uber to meet your needs) ;. does not mean it isnt working for me.. Like you when it dosent work for me, like you Ill quit.
I drove 6 years full time , after that 2 more years part time and a few months with an ocasionally weekend. Believe when I tell you , I know the profession in and out , and is not about making it work or not . It is about at one point you accept reality .
People live in 3rd world countries with 5 dollars a day and they are happy. Homeless people are happy when that can rent a room to have over the head . It is all about personal choices. Any situation can be painted with the lens you choose , but still don’t change the facts .
Looks like your goals are very different than mines.
I consider that the money you earn , not only should allow you to live comfortable , but it also says a lot about your contribution.
I recognize there is a learning curve , but after becoming proficient , the pay should go on the same directions not on the opposite way. Unfortunately, keep lying to yourself , finding reasons to justify continuing driving . Tomorrow will be rare cuts, but you will drive a few more hours a week . Then rates will be lowered again and you’ll be working one more day . Always thinking , I can make it work . And your will keep lowering your standards.
Them the car will not qualify anymore , but you can always get in debt and things will get better . But in reality , they never get better . It is like a swamp , the more you keep trying the deeper the hole.
But you are still here arguing you with other experienced drivers , that you are smarter and skillful and you’ll be able to accomplish what many tried and fail . Unfortunately nothing anyone will say will convince you . You need to hit rock bottom to actually learn . And believe me , is not a question of IF , is just a question of WHEN .
I honestly wish you good luck . You will need it .
 

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I drove 6 years full time , after that 2 more years part time and a few months with an ocasionally weekend. Believe when I tell you , I know the profession in and out , and is not about making it work or not . It is about at one point you accept reality .
People live in 3rd world countries with 5 dollars a day and they are happy. Homeless people are happy when that can rent a room to have over the head . It is all about personal choices. Any situation can be painted with the lens you choose , but still don’t change the facts .
Looks like your goals are very different than mines.
I consider that the money you earn , not only should allow you to live comfortable , but it also says a lot about your contribution.
I recognize there is a learning curve , but after becoming proficient , the pay should go on the same directions not on the opposite way. Unfortunately, keep lying to yourself , finding reasons to justify continuing driving . Tomorrow will be rare cuts, but you will drive a few more hours a week . Then rates will be lowered again and you’ll be working one more day . Always thinking , I can make it work . And your will keep lowering your standards.
Them the car will not qualify anymore , but you can always get in debt and things will get better . But in reality , they never get better . It is like a swamp , the more you keep trying the deeper the hole.
But you are still here arguing you with other experienced drivers , that you are smarter and skillful and you’ll be able to accomplish what many tried and fail . Unfortunately nothing anyone will say will convince you . You need to hit rock bottom to actually learn . And believe me , is not a question of IF , is just a question of WHEN .
I honestly wish you good luck . You will need it .
I do live comfortably but I dont depend on Uber for that. Im at the point in my life where Im transitioning from working for my money to letting my money work for me. Uber supplements my social security and pension income. It lets me add to my savings, rather than spending my savings.

Im not saying Im better or smarter than anyone Im saying my needs are different than yours. and Uber satisfies my needs.
 

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I do live comfortably but I dont depend on Uber for that. Im at the point in my life where Im transitioning from working for my money to letting my money work for me. Uber supplements my social security and pension income. It lets me add to my savings, rather than spending my savings.

Im not saying Im better or smarter than anyone Im saying my needs are different than yours. and Uber satisfies my needs.
Exactly. For older folk like me, rideshare can mean paying for all of the everyday stuff without having to spend any savings or income. It's 'waking money' or 'pocket money'.
 

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Jajaja . We always have the pocket money guy , the cigarettes guy , the I got to suplement my retirement guy . None of them change the facts that is not posible to run a rideshare car on actual prices and turn a profit . But for some 2+2 =7.50 depending on their feelings . !!! Jajaja . Good luck to all of you . Like I said before , you’ll really need it .
 

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the facts that is not posible to run a rideshare car on actual prices and turn a profit .
BS

I would guess that most people don't earn a profit - but I can guarantee you that those who control their expenses and turn away from stupid trips, easily make a profit.
 

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nope retired uber driver
as biggie said condo paid 4 no car payment
i stopped participating almost 15 years ago when i achieved my goals none involve work or careers lol
the goal is not to have to leave my house for 20+ years if I dont have to
but ill take people to the airport for 50+ an hour if it goes lower like lyft ill tap out
i am different 96% fail this scam within the year
80% dont get to 100 riders
didnt get the job to work wanted to learn a new area after relocating to take advantage of the legal weeds and locate the best spot to lay it down, hen found out is 99% fraud so played the game back
i also dont sit on my butt waiting for pings they come or they dont
why wouldnt i accept 50+ an hour gigs from bed? def pays for the weed habit actually 1 ride a day pays 100% of the bills if I still had real ones doesnt hurt
its a verifiable income that gives me a valid reason to be anywhere at anytime lol also found out its the equivilint of dressing up as a pries or fireman you can get anywhere, on private airport runways, beyond secuirty at events, in gated communities.... "uber pick up ....." and hey just let you thru

nothing against math its fun
plus the free cheese when the ceo ebegged for a bailout was great
avearged 5K a ride those 2 years doin 1 ride a month
The only way to do $50+ trip to airport consistently is driving black service with all the expenses and requirements that brings. Did you realize that doing unlicensed trips without commercial insurance will take the paid condo, the savings and the car as soon as a pax gets hurt ? I guess your risk tolerance is much higher than average . Usually the dumbest ones are the ones that bragg.
 

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The only way to do $50+ trip to airport consistently is driving black service with all the expenses and requirements that brings. Did you realize that doing unlicensed trips without commercial insurance will take the paid condo, the savings and the car as soon as a pax gets hurt ? I guess your risk tolerance is much higher than average . Usually the dumbest ones are the ones that bragg.
I did private airport rides for a few years. I gave it up during the covid shutdowns. Commercial Insurance was $1000/year more than what I had been paying. and the airport permit was $100/year, I used Uber to find new customers

I used the same Ford Explorer that I used for Uber (not a black car service) and I consistently did $50 rides
 

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Exactly. For older folk like me, rideshare can mean paying for all of the everyday stuff without having to spend any savings or income. It's 'waking money' or 'pocket money'.
Yep

My house is paid for and social security and pensions take care of basic living expenses.. Uber takes care of "lifestyle" expenses until I cant work anymore Then I will start drawing down savings and investments or maybe, do a reverse mortgage

Heres a bumper sticker that i may put on my car
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nope retired uber driver
as biggie said condo paid 4 no car payment
i stopped participating almost 15 years ago when i achieved my goals none involve work or careers lol
the goal is not to have to leave my house for 20+ years if I dont have to
but ill take people to the airport for 50+ an hour if it goes lower like lyft ill tap out
i am different 96% fail this scam within the year
80% dont get to 100 riders
didnt get the job to work wanted to learn a new area after relocating to take advantage of the legal weeds and locate the best spot to lay it down, hen found out is 99% fraud so played the game back
i also dont sit on my butt waiting for pings they come or they dont
why wouldnt i accept 50+ an hour gigs from bed? def pays for the weed habit actually 1 ride a day pays 100% of the bills if I still had real ones doesnt hurt
its a verifiable income that gives me a valid reason to be anywhere at anytime lol also found out its the equivilint of dressing up as a pries or fireman you can get anywhere, on private airport runways, beyond secuirty at events, in gated communities.... "uber pick up ....." and hey just let you thru

nothing against math its fun
plus the free cheese when the ceo ebegged for a bailout was great
avearged 5K a ride those 2 years doin 1 ride a month

Yesterday you were complaining about earning minimum wage and only making 0.60 per mile. But today you're now making $50/hour? You must be a genius at math. Props to you!
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Exactly. For older folk like me, rideshare can mean paying for all of the everyday stuff without having to spend any savings or income. It's 'waking money' or 'pocket money'.
Yep

My house is paid for and social security and pensions take care of basic living expenses.. Uber takes care of "lifestyle" expenses until I cant work anymore Then I will start drawing down savings and investments or maybe, do a reverse mortgage

Heres a bumper sticker that i may put on my car
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I agree with both of these. I’m in a similar situation. I always tell riders that ask about the business that if I had to do this job I would hate it. But since I don’t have to do it, it’s actually enjoyable because there is absolutely no pressure for me to make numbers. I think many on this board are in the “have to” group and therefore hate it. And I get it. Just a mindset….
 

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yes winner thats 99% of trips I dont take
Im xl only and am top 1% of this scam
reading is fundamental
way to paraphrase though
but ill take people to the airport for 50+ an hour if it goes lower like lyft ill tap out
i am different 96% fail this scam within the year
80% dont get to 100 riders
math its fun

Im knot talkin bout me im talkin bout dem other cats lmao
keep diggin mcfly
you do know what paraphrasing is right?
Well, ain't no way a female pax is banging you on the way to - or returning home from - the airport, sir. So, you must be finding those homeless girls in or around your neighborhood, on the way back to your crib.
 

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yes winner thats 99% of trips I dont take
Im xl only and am top 1% of this scam
reading is fundamental
way to paraphrase though
but ill take people to the airport for 50+ an hour if it goes lower like lyft ill tap out
i am different 96% fail this scam within the year
80% dont get to 100 riders
math its fun

Im knot talkin bout me im talkin bout dem other cats lmao
keep diggin mcfly
you do know what paraphrasing is right?
Jajajaja. Really? Did you ever read yourself?
Why are you so mad ? Aren’t you doing so well ?jajaja .
Usually the dumbest ones are the ones that bragg.
 

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I'm doing kind of the exact same thing, Monday through Friday morning I turn my app on around sometime between 2:00 and 3:00 a.m. I set my app for Lyft luxury, and I wait for trips most of them are going right in the local area where I live, usually there are people that selected lyft standard, the driver canceled so they see that I'm available on lyft luxury and nearby so they select me, and I usually don't turn app off until around 12:00 noon, most of my driving sitting in the car and waiting for a ping is Friday night to Monday morning Monday through Friday I work from home and doing okay doing it,

I don't get nor do I want to understand the mentality of oh you're online for 60 hours but you're active booked time is only 20 or 30 hours, even though in those 60 hours my booked time $50 to $60 plu per hour, the logic on this site freaking amaze me, I guess it's too hard to comprehend that I am putting less wear and tear and mileage on my car working this way,

Sorry I don't have better High number screenshots to show, but I do not work long hours anymore I don't even work every week anymore, I have some health issues, the point of the screenshot is that that is 65 dollars plus per hour and very little time was spent actually sitting in my car waiting for a ping.
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In the days of Halfway decent rates I quickly realized you could make the same amount if not more by doing two round trip trips to the Denver airport during non busy driving times in 3-4 hours out of your day on x rather than grind out a bunch of trips and wear out your car. Working smarter not harder is the way to go. Those days are long gone and it’s much harder to do that with the dog 💩 rates lyft and Uber are putting out. I’d walk away with $150-$180 In not a whole lot of effort while handling my day job remote.

@painfreepc those days have come and gone. There’s still some money to be made during certain streaks and bonuses if you play your cards right. If I was on a lux platform I’d cherry pick too. Unless you are after the insurance I’m not sure why anyone would care about booked time In Cali. Furthermore, I would be very interested to see if those who are getting the insurance stipend what exactly their books look like. 95% of the non surge trips are just not profitable so it would be interesting to see if anyone who is getting the Stipend what is your actual profit per mile and are you able to receive the insurance stipend and save for a new vehicle once this one breaks down ? I get that everyone has different reasons they do rideshare, but it’s not charity. Uber/ lyft make no claims about insurance stipend and profitability and I wonder if the two are even compatible or if it’s a catch 22? I think I read somewhere where only ten percent of eligible drivers are even accessing the stipend.
 

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I get that everyone has different reasons they do rideshare, but it’s not charity.
Yes it is.
Most drivers work very hard to donate their time, effort and vehicles to Uber and Lyft.
And they thank you.
 

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x tire 99% illegal wages 1 outta 100 trips pay legal wages
xl tier 90% illegal wages 10 outta 100 trips pay legal wages
of course the fares are anything but 'fair', but please explain how they are "illegal".
A screenshot or three with an illegal fare you received would be helpful illustration.
(or if what you posted was just hyperbole, that's cool too - I'd just like to understand if you meant it literally)
 

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whether they agree or not, or if they are right or wrong." Calling people maggots", I don't know if you think thats a joke,
Question ? Calling ppl Maggots or Ants, is there a difference since you are being so sensitive. So you do understand maggots are larva or eggs to another specie, so are the same with ants eggs, (should I call the new drivers Wasps instead ? remember a wasp was a maggot before its transformation)

Uber Ants are those who have been around a long time (No disrespect there)
Since a Maggot is first stage to Wasp (I uses it to describe new drivers (no disrespect intended there).

Stop being a Karen. (now that could be whatever you want to take it as)
 
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