[bobby747]

Your loss, you can learn alot from old bobby... and I do believe he's probably done a lot more than 709 uberX

15,000 plus

 

[bobby747]

Got it tks

I must put him on ignore.

 

[Rideshare Dude]

IRS mileage deduction is *NOT* an expense

Please stop with the nonsense. The IRS deduction per mile is a blanket number covering everything from the smallest passenger car to “vans, pickups or panel trucks.” Just because the deduction is $.625 per mile doesn’t mean that is what it COSTS you to own and operate YOUR vehicle. Here’s a...

www.uberpeople.net

 

[Driver_Down]

The guy towing trailer arpund town with a v8 Silverado full of landscaping gear gets the same 65c per mile deduction as the guy delivering McDonald's & 7-11 orders in a Prius. Their costs are not the same. Prius boy's costs are maybe 25% of that 65c while the law jockey can easily exceed that 65c.



Exactly. I get around 7-8 miles per gallon in my truck when I'm Towing my boat. 22 or so without it.

There are guys who are towing a trailer full of equipment all day.
Their costs are way more than driving a prius. The 65c deduction is definitely is too our advantage.

It appears you are forgetting that average landscaping company is charging $50-$100 per house to mow and edge + additional costs for Bush trimmings etc. Keep in mind some work in crews highly efficiently one guy does the front the other guy does the back. I've heard podcasts where they can easily knock 2 houses per hour and on smaller lots 3 per hour. That's over $150 gross revenue per hour. You're also forgetting that alot of the times they are actually doing multiple houses within a 1 mile radius of the last house. That's from canvassing and referrals. I'd estimate for a legal paying company the worker averages $25-$30 an hour.

 

[bobby747]

In 2005 I payed a guy to do my yard a steal at $65 month year round....wpb florida....44 acre decent size lot on a lake...weed wack. Riding lawnmower ..

 

[25rides7daysaweek]

In 2005 I payed a guy to do my yard a steal at $65 month year round....wpb florida....44 acre decent size lot on a lake...weed wack. Riding lawnmower ..

44 acres you need a 6ft cut John deere!!!
I'd do it w a 48" though cause I like operating machines. It's one of the reasons I like ubering so much 😁

 

[coolblk]

Inquiry.

Why would a psychiatrist stick somebody once let alone twice?

Maybe they (psychiatrist ) have special needles for some people ("Sean112 said"),
what I posted wasn't even about hatred to any drivers new or old, it was to show how Fuber would find ways to pay out less money, if it includes new drivers accepting lower pay,
Rather than ("Sean112 said") try to understand what the topic is about, he decide come out blazing with attacks and insults, and since he suggested the psychiatrist I am telling him to make that trip. ( guess he doesn't realize that he coming full speed with the hatred)
(If some people read the entire tread, they would have better understanding for others opinion)

 

[bobby747]

44 acres you need a 6ft cut John deere!!!
I'd do it w a 48" though cause I like operating machines. It's one of the reasons I like ubering so much 😁

.44 acres..less than 1/2 acre

 

[JonC]

<snip>
is $1/mile worth it?

Nope, not even close to worth it. And in my city, Uber pays $0.57 per mile.

Now, my car costs considerably less than IRS estimates to drive, total cost per mile over the last 7 years has been $0.24, including what I spent to buy the car. And that's dropping every mile since the car is paid for, fuel cost is maybe $0.05/mile.

But my day gig pays $50 - $175 an hour. Uber was an "Eh, I'm not doing anything, might as well get out of the house while I don't have any other work and I'm bored" kind of thing that I was fine with when it was paying $30+/hour. It's nowhere close to that now, so it's been quite a while since I've driven for Uber.

(Oh, and if I'm going outside my home county on the day gig I charge $30/hour for drive time, both to and from the client.)

Uber was fun while it lasted. I might do it again if the rates ever go sane again. If I decide to "retire" from the day gig would I do it instead of SickDonald's? Sure. There's no way I'd work there. Would I do it instead of going back to bartending, which I did many, many years ago? F**K NO.

 

[Boca Ratman]

It appears you are forgetting that average landscaping company is charging $50-$100 per house to mow and edge + additional costs for Bush trimmings etc. Keep in mind some work in crews highly efficiently one guy does the front the other guy does the back. I've heard podcasts where they can easily knock 2 houses per hour and on smaller lots 3 per hour. That's over $150 gross revenue per hour. You're also forgetting that alot of the times they are actually doing multiple houses within a 1 mile radius of the last house. That's from canvassing and referrals. I'd estimate for a legal paying company the worker averages $25-$30 an hour.

I didn't forget shit.

It is irrelevant.

 

[Driver_Down]

Gotcha

In 2005 I payed a guy to do my yard a steal at $65 month year round....wpb florida....44 acre decent size lot on a lake...weed wack. Riding lawnmower ..

I see. Interesting that's a very affordable price for such huge amount of land. I'm here in socal and the average price is $50 starting.

 

[vcbrooks60]

If the rides you accept all pay $1/mile including pickup time and trip time:

IRS estimates cost to operate a vehicle is $0.65/mile.

So your profit is $0.35/mile.

Let's say your average speed on those trips is 25 mph.

Your net pay per hour those trips, if you have no downtime at all, is:

$0.35/mile * 25 miles/hour = $8.75/hr

If your downtime between trips is 10%, your net pay drops to $7.88/hr

If your downtime between trips is 20%, your net pay drops to $7.00/hr

If you dead-head at all, which most drivers do, then net pay gets even worse.

Keep in mind this is for a dangerous job with no benefits that takes a physical toll on your body.

How much is minimum wage in your market? What is McDonald's paying in your market?

If you think your costs to operate your vehicle (fuel, maintenance, depreciation) are less than $0.65/mile, then fine, maybe you're right. But I still urge you to run the numbers yourself like I did here and then ask yourself... is $1/mile worth it?

Don't drive. In fact keep telling people it's not worth it. We need more threads like this.

 

[UberBastid]

Inquiry.

Why would a psychiatrist stick somebody once let alone twice?

Thoazine acts much faster if injected.
Standard dose for an agitated patient over 70 kilos is 50mg, and may repeat in one hour as needed.

 

[LIESbyUber]

Thoazine acts much faster if injected.
Standard dose for an agitated patient over 70 kilos is 50mg, and may repeat in one hour as needed.

All right, I did some looking into your post and I understand why you know that now.

Also, might I suggest androgens. Might help with your problem. Rather hers, and use it in a topical cream.

 

[painfreepc]

If the rides you accept all pay $1/mile including pickup time and trip time,

IRS estimates cost to operate a vehicle is $0.65/mile.

So your profit is $0.35/mile.

Let's say your average speed on those trips is 25 mph.

Your net pay per hour those trips, if you have no downtime at all, is:

$0.35/mile * 25 miles/hour = $8.75/hr

If your downtime between trips is 10%, your net pay drops to $7.88/hr

If your downtime between trips is 20%, your net pay drops to $7.00/hr

If you dead-head at all, which most drivers do, then net pay gets even worse.

Keep in mind this is for a dangerous job with no benefits that takes a physical toll on your body.

How much is minimum wage in your market? What is McDonald's paying in your market?

If you think your costs to operate your vehicle (fuel, maintenance, depreciation) are less than $0.65/mile, then fine, maybe you're right. But I still urge you to run the numbers yourself like I did here and then ask yourself... is $1/mile worth it?

I'm assuming that 65 cents per mile is supposed to cover the expensive of a New car, New truck or New van up to the value $60,800, is your auto anywhere near $60,800, was your auto new, is your auto 100% rideshare,
And most importantly do you totally understand the different between fixed expensive and variable expenses,

source:
SECTION 5. MAXIMUM STANDARD AUTOMOBILE COST
For purposes of computing the allowance under a FAVR plan, the standard
automobile cost may not exceed $60,800 for automobiles (including trucks and vans).
See section 6.02(6) of Rev. Proc. 2019-46

Notice 2023-03 PDF contains the optional 2023 standard mileage rates, as well as the maximum automobile cost used to calculate the allowance under a fixed and variable rate (FAVR) plan.

IRS issues standard mileage rates for 2023; business use increases 3 cents per mile | Internal Revenue Service

IR-2022-234, December 29, 2022 — The Internal Revenue Service today issued the 2023 optional standard mileage rates used to calculate the deductible costs of operating an automobile for business, charitable, medical or moving purposes.

www.irs.gov

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[UberBastid]

All right, I did some looking into your post and I understand why you know that now.

Also, might I suggest androgens. Might help with your problem. Rather hers, and use it in a topical cream.

LoL

I used to work in heath care in my much younger years.
Since I was a 'big guy' I used to work a day or two rotation a week in the security section of a county hospital psych ward.
Thorazine flowed like mothers milk there.

We've already worked thru the above problem, but she'd get so psychotic there were times I'd hide the guns.

.

 

[LIESbyUber]

LoL

I used to work in heath care in my much younger years.
Since I was a 'big guy' I used to work a day or two rotation a week in the security section of a county hospital psych ward.
Thorazine flowed like mothers milk there.

We've already worked thru the above problem, but she'd get so psychotic there were times I'd hide the guns.

.

Not to pry into your personal life but what was your solution to your said issue?

 

[Heisenburger]

44 acres you need a 6ft cut John deere!!!
I'd do it w a 48" though cause I like operating machines. It's one of the reasons I like ubering so much 😁

💯 We're cut from the same cloth.

 

[LIESbyUber]

💯 We're cut from the same cloth.

You need to stop with the analogies. This is the fourth one you've got wrong.

You too share only one interest at this point from your posts on this forum that I've noticed.

You could say one's a burlap sack and the other one's a gunny sack and that would be the only interest that you would have aligned.

 

[craig85006]

$1/ mi is an old metric that needs to be put out to pasture. It’s been promoted ad nauseam on this forum for years. It may have been applicable Around 2016, but in 2023 with inflation and the cost of living substantially higher this target should be moved. $1 in 2016 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $1.25 today, an increase of $0.25 over 7 years. I get that is not clean to quickly do as $1/ mi, but the reality is I’m having no issue picking off trips way more profitable than that.

Everyone has different strategies depending on the type of vehicle and the age of the vehicle and the market. I used to cherry-pick 2 round-trip fares to the airport and walk away with a gross of $150 for my troubles. I also had some hacks that weren’t widely known and I could use Wi-Fi at the airport to remain in the queue and wait out trips while doing other work to avoid traffic if I so choose. My vehicle was also fully depreciated, yet at that time had really low miles given I spent 5 years going less than 15k miles total when I bought it.

Today, I have a pretty fuel efficient nonhybrid/ EV car. I wouldn’t consider doing the same strategy as before as the pay and miles on my car don’t make it worth it for me with these trash rates. I now am totally driven by profit per mile and look for Uber x trips that pay me 2 to 4x per mile. I don’t consider working non-busy times as it’s not worth it, but I find myself being way more efficient in terms of the number of miles and gas I am using. I will take a .90/ mile trip if it is taking me where I want to go. Once there I’m only taking short trips at 3x and I am able to easily complete in 15 mins. I still try and avoid as many dead miles as possible but find I’m well above the $1.25 per mile target with a focus on profit-per-mile outlook.

What are your acceptance and cancellation rates? I am starting to pay less attention to those especially when I am trying to conquer a Quest Promo/Opportunity. I look at the total time and generally do not accept the trip if it is over 15 minutes, especially when the Quests here lately have EXCLUDED Eats/Connects trips. I won't accept the trip or will cancel the trip if the pickup point is more than 5 miles. So the Quests are harder and take longer to achieve because they are more times than not "RIDES ONLY." It is necessary for me to maintain 2-4 trips per hour to ensure I will hit the end goal in a timely fashion, which means my acceptance and cancellation rates take a hit. I have also been taking advantage of the two (2) promo exceptions we are allotted each month. But, I really don't care because I am out to earn money, not cater to Uber and its customers. I do what's in my best interest, not Uber's.

Furthermore, Uber's fares have dropped, and the drivers are now earning less. Lyft drivers have told me that Uber has undercut Lyft, making Lyft the now higher-priced rideshare service. It was suggested that I do Lyft for one week straight and then compare the earnings.

UBERGRIND, you stated, "I now am totally driven by profit per mile and look for UberX trips that pay me 2 to 4 per mile. I don't consider non-busy times as it's not worth it."

Question:
How do you determine the above? I am looking for tips on how to drive more efficiently and maximize my earning potential. I use a very fuel-efficient car, a 2014 Cruze Turbo Diesel, so I can compete with the Hybrids on the MPG. Uber's strategy suggestions are for its benefit, not the driver's, and Uber's threats of "losing benefits" behind lower acceptance and higher cancellation rates really do amount to NOTHING anyway.

I am open to any suggestions as I miss my 40-hrs/$1,400.00 weeks.